|
S80 '06-'16 / V70 & XC70 '07-'16 General Forum for the P3-platform S80 and 70-series models |
Information |
|
MOT and suspension bushesViews : 861 Replies : 12Users Viewing This Thread : |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
Sep 22nd, 2017, 10:24 | #1 |
New Member
Last Online: Sep 10th, 2021 12:11
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: London
|
MOT and suspension bushes
Hello all
Does anyone know if the rear trailing arm bushes are inspected as part of the MOT for a V70? I've had an authorised dealer tell me that mine are both shot and must be replaced but since then my car has been elsewhere for its MOT and they only picked up a bit of play on the front offside tie rod. The VOSA inspection manual seems to require inspection of the suspension, front and rear including trailing arms and an MOT certificate should be refused if there is "deterioration of a rubber, synthetic bush or mounting resulting in excessive movement". So I'm left wondering whether the bushes weren't inspected, or they were but there is no excessive movement and so they don't need replacing yet? Unfortunately I have no means of inspecting them (and probably wouldn't know what I was looking for if I did!) Many thanks in advance if you are able to assist! |
Sep 22nd, 2017, 12:51 | #2 |
Premier Member
Last Online: Jan 15th, 2022 11:23
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Salisbury (ish)
|
I've got a Golf that goes to same tester every year. Some years, I get an advisory on rear bushes & some years I don't, despite them not having been renewed in the meantime.
Just had mail dealer service which includes a free health check from which they then email you a video of the underside of the vehicle. One of my bushes is in a bad way while the other one has been replaced not long ago. Got an MOT within the month so will get it replaced & then full wheel alignment as I've just had 4 new Pirellis fitted and don't want to wear them out prematurely. I seem to recall reading there's a Ford equivalent part which is cheaper than Volvo - can anyone confirm pls?
__________________
2008 XC70 3.2 SE Lux with LPG conversion - current 2005 XC70 D5 SE Lux - sold 2004 XC70 D5 SE Lux - written off by another XC70 2001 V70 D5 - sold 2000 V70 Classic 2.4 - sold |
Sep 22nd, 2017, 13:00 | #3 |
New Member
Last Online: Sep 10th, 2021 12:11
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: London
|
Thanks Simon, the dealer did actually email me a link to a video showing worn bushes, along with pictures of my car on the hydraulic lift. But the images weren't on a continuous video and given some other shenanigans they were trying on I was very suspicious that the bushes shown weren't on my car.
And now that it has passed the MOT at an independent garage without them being flagged I'm even more suspicious! |
Sep 22nd, 2017, 13:09 | #4 |
Bungling Amateur
Last Online: Today 10:46
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Beverley, East Yorks
|
If the bushes are part of the suspension then yes they are tested. They can be failed if they are worn resulting in excessive movement, and/or they are in the last few percent of their life and failure is imminent/they are insecure.
Volvo (and most other franchise) dealers are notoriously strict on bushes - you should get the same experience with an MOT test wherever you go.
__________________
2011 XC90 D5 Executive 2003 C70 T5 GT 2012 Ford Ranger XL SC 1977 Triumph Spitfire 1500 1976 Massey Ferguson 135 |
Sep 22nd, 2017, 15:34 | #5 |
Master Member
Last Online: Dec 15th, 2023 18:46
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Kent,pothole capital of UK.
|
Yes they should be inspected but, they are covered/hidden by a plastic shield and MOT inspectors are NOT allowed to remove such items to inspect these bushes . If you know they are worn it will pay to get them done as car will be quieter and feel better over bumps . Many cars have passed an MOT with shot trailing arm bushes because of their hidden away position . A sign that they are worn is a squeaking sound especially with rear passengers . This squeak will stop in wet driving conditions . The covers are easy to remove and a pry bar will show up any sideways movement on the bushes . Also look for rust where they fit into the trailing arm and cracks in the rubber.
__________________
The secret of flight is to aim at the ground and miss ! Previous Volvos 740 GLE . V40 CD ,V70 2.4 SE LPT.V70 D5 P2. V70 D5 Se Lux P3. Current Jaguar XF Sportbrake but still like Volvos |
Sep 22nd, 2017, 20:18 | #6 |
New Member
Last Online: Sep 10th, 2021 12:11
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: London
|
Thank you Model flyer.
What that means is that a car might be unroadworthy and should have failed the MOT but has passed because a fault is hidden. There could be other potentially lethal problems hidden behind that plastic panel and still a vehicle can pass the test? |
Sep 22nd, 2017, 21:31 | #7 | |
Bungling Amateur
Last Online: Today 10:46
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Beverley, East Yorks
|
Quote:
In essence - yes. The MOT test isn't all things to all men and doesn't contain processes or inspections specific to any make or model.
__________________
2011 XC90 D5 Executive 2003 C70 T5 GT 2012 Ford Ranger XL SC 1977 Triumph Spitfire 1500 1976 Massey Ferguson 135 |
|
Sep 24th, 2017, 10:19 | #8 |
Speed freak
Last Online: Apr 3rd, 2020 22:04
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Yorkshire
|
I did the 3 day MOT course last year and after nearly 18 years in trade it just seemed to go against alot of what ive learn't over years,
These rear bushes been one of the things, yeah you might know they are shot but because they are behind a plastic panel and not visible then they carn't fail on them for excessive movement, Another thing is brake discs condition, they can be well below minimum specs or be that corroded theres no surface left, but pads are ok and they pass brake roller test efficency test then you carn't fail vehicle on them,
__________________
04 XC90 D5 --- Big bus 00 pug 306HDi --- Run about 88 pug 309GTi --- Project track car 07 CB600 Hornet --- 2 wheel fun |
Sep 25th, 2017, 11:15 | #9 |
New Member
Last Online: Sep 10th, 2021 12:11
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: London
|
Thanks all, so in essence this means I can't rely on the MOT, which I guess means taking the car to someone who can take off the panels and that I have to trust
|
Sep 25th, 2017, 11:16 | #10 |
New Member
Last Online: Sep 10th, 2021 12:11
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: London
|
Just to add, there is no obvious sign to me that the bushes are gone - no strange noises, no uneven tire wear, no back end sliding around all over the road etc!
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|
|