XC70: Engine P2 V70 D5 to P3 XC70-Which Engine?

[Kev0607]

Originally Posted by Judge

What sort of MPG realistically are you getting on a run in the D5 and whats the road tax?

Starting to think the D5 might be the way to go now. But they are thirsty enough in the auto V70 anyway. Be interested to hear your real world experience.

I have a 2.4 D5, although its not an XC70.

if it helps, I get around 28mpg around town. On a long motorway journey, I get roughly 50mpg and on a shorter motorway run, maybe around 45 mpg or so. The XC70 is heavier though I believe, so you could probably knock a few mpg off those figures.

D5's aren't particularly economical, but you have to keep in mind that you're pulling a heavy car around.

[Sotosound]

Originally Posted by Judge

Thanks Graham, great info. Bear that in mind about the aux belt etc.

Yes I definitely do not want one of the early 2.0 FWD versions. They are PSA I believe?

I want as much of my Volvo to be Volvo as it can be.

Do you think there's much chance of the 5 cyl 2.0 feeling underpowered in a vehicle the weight of a XC70?

I have to ask why you're looking for an XC70. Are you actually going to use its AWD ability, or do you just fancy its style and the ride height?

If the latter, then an XC70 D3 DRIVe would be an excellent option. It has the XC70's rugged off-road looks, a 2-litre 5-cylinder Volvo engine with 161bhp and loads of torque and performance, but without the additional costs of maintaining and running an AWD vehicle.

My son has owned an 2011 XC70 DRIVe D3 SE Lux Geartronic for four years, and he says that it's the best car that he's ever owned. Later examples with the Sensus infotainment system are even better, with the faired-in satnav screen, voice control, and a more user-friendly button layout.

It's also worth noting that even the P3 V70 sits noticeably higher than the P2 V70, and has a more accessible rear compartment than its predecessor. My recollection of my old P2 is that the tailgate rose to just the right height for scarring on the forehead. So you don't need an XC70 to "get a lift" in your driving, a properly accessible rear compartment, and a scar-free forehead - a P3 V70 will give you those things.

If, however, you need AWD then it has to be a full-fat XC70.

[JonnyA]

Originally Posted by Judge

What sort of MPG realistically are you getting on a run in the D5 and whats the road tax?

Starting to think the D5 might be the way to go now. But they are thirsty enough in the auto V70 anyway. Be interested to hear your real world experience.

I get 35-37 out of my XC70 215 D5, with mix of A, B and urban roads.
my best is 38, when fully laden (4 adults+dog)+ luggage+roof box on a long Mway cruise, the rest of the time i'm on my own (or plus dog) and enjoying the drive too much

[Judge]

Originally Posted by Andmurph

My D5 manual V70 returns a pretty decent 52mpg on my 70 mile commute. Mainly motorway. Around town and short trips it’s nearer 40mpg. The computer is far from accurate. I check occasionally when I fill up and do the maths.

Thats certainly a lot better than my P2 V70 auto D5-44mpg on a long cruise at 65mph is pushing it.

[Judge]

Originally Posted by Sotosound

I have to ask why you're looking for an XC70. Are you actually going to use its AWD ability, or do you just fancy its style and the ride height?

If the latter, then an XC70 D3 DRIVe would be an excellent option. It has the XC70's rugged off-road looks, a 2-litre 5-cylinder Volvo engine with 161bhp and loads of torque and performance, but without the additional costs of maintaining and running an AWD vehicle.

My son has owned an 2011 XC70 DRIVe D3 SE Lux Geartronic for four years, and he says that it's the best car that he's ever owned. Later examples with the Sensus infotainment system are even better, with the faired-in satnav screen, voice control, and a more user-friendly button layout.

It's also worth noting that even the P3 V70 sits noticeably higher than the P2 V70, and has a more accessible rear compartment than its predecessor. My recollection of my old P2 is that the tailgate rose to just the right height for scarring on the forehead. So you don't need an XC70 to "get a lift" in your driving, a properly accessible rear compartment, and a scar-free forehead - a P3 V70 will give you those things.

If, however, you need AWD then it has to be a full-fat XC70.

All three really!

I really do like the idea of the 2 litre 5 cyl D3 engines but I'm often fully loaded for longish drives and would be pushing the engine a bit too hard. Definitely a sensus system is a must for me, post 2012 is where I will be looking.

You are quite right-the P2 boot lid is a forehead hazard! i really do like the P3 V70 but the XC70 more.

Would I be correct in saying the AWD is only available in the the 2.4 D and the d5? Done fair bit of research but the engine choice is confusing.

[Sotosound]

Originally Posted by Judge

All three really!

I really do like the idea of the 2 litre 5 cyl D3 engines but I'm often fully loaded for longish drives and would be pushing the engine a bit too hard. Definitely a sensus system is a must for me, post 2012 is where I will be looking.

You are quite right-the P2 boot lid is a forehead hazard! i really do like the P3 V70 but the XC70 more.

Would I be correct in saying the AWD is only available in the the 2.4 D and the d5? Done fair bit of research but the engine choice is confusing.

My probably non-definitive understanding is that AWD XC70s all have the 2.4-litre 5-cylinder engine and, for cars with Sensus, they will be badged D4 and D5.

I believe that the 2.4d badge disappeared around the same time that the 2.0d badge disappeared, i.e. around the time that Ford sold Volvo.

[Judge]

Originally Posted by Sotosound

My probably non-definitive understanding is that AWD XC70s all have the 2.4-litre 5-cylinder engine and, for cars with Sensus, they will be badged D4 and D5.

I believe that the 2.4d badge disappeared around the same time that the 2.0d badge disappeared, i.e. around the time that Ford sold Volvo.

Ah well that's an easy way of looking at it.

I wonder how the D4 AWD compares to the AWD D5 in terms of power output, road tax and mpg.

Any idea when the tft dark became standard?

I'm not sure if the info Parkers gives is always correct.

[Kev0607]

Originally Posted by Judge

Thats certainly a lot better than my P2 V70 auto D5-44mpg on a long cruise at 65mph is pushing it.

Those figures were based on a manual transmission. Auto's aren't as efficient. Keep that in mind.

Originally Posted by Judge

Ah well that's an easy way of looking at it.

I wonder how the D4 AWD compares to the AWD D5 in terms of power output, road tax and mpg.

Any idea when the tft dark became standard?

I'm not sure if the info Parkers gives is always correct.

You have to choose which year you're looking at. Road tax brackets get cheaper on the euro 6 diesel models for example, but older ones are more expensive.

Some XC70's badged as "D4" have 5 cylinder engines. Some have 4 cylinder... you need to research it. They also have different power outputs, so it depends what year car you're looking at.

I find Autotrader quite good for that. If you click on an advert, then click on "performance" and it'll show you the number of cylinders and bhp. If you click on "running costs", it tells you how much the road tax is and mpg figures.

63 plate (September 2013) onwards is when the newer dash cluster was introduced.

[Judge]

Originally Posted by Kev0607

Those figures were based on a manual transmission. Auto's aren't as efficient. Keep that in mind.



You have to choose which year you're looking at. Road tax brackets get cheaper on the euro 6 diesel models for example, but older ones are more expensive.

Some XC70's badged as "D4" have 5 cylinder engines. Some have 4 cylinder... you need to research it. They also have different power outputs, so it depends what year car you're looking at.

I find Autotrader quite good for that. If you click on an advert, then click on "performance" and it'll show you the number of cylinders and bhp. If you click on "running costs", it tells you how much the road tax is and mpg figures.

63 plate (September 2013) onwards is when the newer dash cluster was introduced.

Thanks, that's a great tip about Autotrader. You think then depending on the car advertised the data they show is accurate to the shown car/engine etc?

I'll have a look out from Sept '13 onwards-cheers.

[Kev0607]

Originally Posted by Judge

Thanks, that's a great tip about Autotrader. You think then depending on the car advertised the data they show is accurate to the shown car/engine etc?

I'll have a look out from Sept '13 onwards-cheers.

I've found Autotrader to be accurate as in telling you the bhp, how much the road tax is, engine size, number of cylinders for example. You can also find out what interior features a car has, as well as exterior features. Very handy.

Take the mpg figures listed on Autotrader with a pinch of salt (same as other sites like Parkers). They list the factory mpg figures, not real world ones. So don't be expecting to achieve the figures they list because it won't happen. Just so you know.

Also, the titles on the adverts usually indicate whether the car is a euro 4, 5 or 6. This is another handy feature, especially if you're looking for something in particular. If you just want to look at euro 6 only for example, you can type "euro 6" under "keyword" and it'll only list euro 6 cars.

Autotrader is good, in my opinion. Keep in mind that there's a desktop (website) version of Autotrader and a mobile app version. If you're on the lookout for a car, I advise you to check both (you need a smartphone for the app). Sometimes cars on the app won't be on the website, and vice versa.