Indie. Rolling Road Results - Page 13

Jul 26th, 2006, 16:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by adieu

Results from PE where 195, so as you can see it's a close match.

Iain,

Haven't you had a decat pipe fitted since your PE run ? Surely you were expecting an improvement in the power output.

IMHO I would have to say that a difference of 15 hp is not what I would call close.

Regards,
Hamish.

Jod T5 · Jul 26th, 2006, 16:53

I have been watching this thread with some interest as i was hoping to get down to sw autos to "prove" my volvotuning rica following some jovial enticement and provocation by at least two nameless members of the voc site....bobcat and chow...oops...however due to the fact my clutch is slipping under severe acceleration i had to pass but bobcat has said he will be around when i can get down there....
Why are we measuring whp when there is such a grey area between drag and transmission power losses...he says 40% he says 30% its all bollox....does anyone really know, or are we reliant on a computer whos perameters are set by the tuner....WHOEVER they are.....

why cant the results be measured direct from the crank or flywheel??

bobcat you are not doing yourself or sw any favours with your continual waffle and faliure to produce the goods as demanded by the forum members...you claim its for security and the copywrite of the members whos car you tested....why cant you give us a list of vehicles,type and graph that way everyone secures there anonimity. i appreciate it was a hot day and figures may be down but thats life im afraid...

bobcat pull you finger out man.....
cheers
jod

bobcat · Jul 26th, 2006, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by jod t5

why cant the results be measured direct from the crank or flywheel??

cheers
jod

because there is a gearbox in the way!! - doh

tell you what, you volunteer to come and take engines out of cars and we will get and engine dyno which TAT will be able to provide us software for.

adieu · Jul 26th, 2006, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by hamish

Iain,

Haven't you had a decat pipe fitted since your PE run ? Surely you were expecting an improvement in the power output.

IMHO I would have to say that a difference of 15 hp is not what I would call close.

Regards,
Hamish.

As you and Adam have said in the past Air Temp Fuel quality etc etc can have a large effect on BHP produced. If my memory serves me right at PE it was a very cold morning around 10 degree's and i was using Optimax. This time round High 20's (think it hit 28 at one point) and poor fuel thanks to the wife filling it up at ASDA.

So as you/adam have said taking these facts into account it could be considered the lost is because of the above.

Hope this helps

Regards

Iain

SaffronC70 · Jul 26th, 2006, 17:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by jod t5

why cant you give us a list of vehicles,type and graph

Guys

Just to clear a few points up.

No one was taking an official list - someone was scribbling down the best power out of three runs observed on analogue gauges.

There IS NO LIST having owner, car and power - until the disclaimers with peoples details can be matched to the power outputs.

The dyno day was FREE and the aim of the day was just to get as many cars on the rollers - as to let everyone have a bit of fun.

hth

Chris

SaffronC70 · Jul 26th, 2006, 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobcat

the dials displayed whp.

By doing this, we can take drag out of the equation.

The equipment will be purely measured the force put out by the wheels.

Also, the dials were great at adding to the excitement factor with every crowded round !

Chris

SaffronC70 · Jul 26th, 2006, 17:35

My run on the day was (an observed) just over 200whp - my car isn't great at dyno days it seems.

This compares to 285bhp (crank) from Power Engineering and before then 280whp at VT with prior software.

Chris

Jod T5 · Jul 26th, 2006, 17:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobcat

because there is a gearbox in the way!! - doh

tell you what, you volunteer to come and take engines out of cars and we will get and engine dyno which TAT will be able to provide us software for.

lmao....
yes bobcat i appreciate the logistics of the positioning of the gearbox.....my enquiry was as to whether a crank or flywheel bhp figure could be obtained....
so it is possable but i have to remove engines for the pleasure of the reading??
iains figures were not maybe as he had hoped due to various circumstanes (asda petrol ..jeez!!) but at least he has put his money where his mouth is and said...how were your results bobcat??
cheers
jod

adieu · Jul 26th, 2006, 17:45

WAYNET5ER

If your waiting for answers you might want to have a word with adam over some questions put to him in Oct 2005 that he didn't answer.roflmao.

Regards

Iain

Jod T5 · Jul 26th, 2006, 17:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaffronC70

There IS NO LIST having owner, car and power - until the disclaimers with peoples details can be matched to the power outputs.

chris i specifically excluded owner from my list...
cheers
jod

Jul 26th, 2006, 16:53	#122
Jod T5 Phoenix from the ashes Last Online: Apr 24th, 2024 01:05 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Finchingfield	I have been watching this thread with some interest as i was hoping to get down to sw autos to "prove" my volvotuning rica following some jovial enticement and provocation by at least two nameless members of the voc site....bobcat and chow...oops...however due to the fact my clutch is slipping under severe acceleration i had to pass but bobcat has said he will be around when i can get down there.... Why are we measuring whp when there is such a grey area between drag and transmission power losses...he says 40% he says 30% its all bollox....does anyone really know, or are we reliant on a computer whos perameters are set by the tuner....WHOEVER they are..... why cant the results be measured direct from the crank or flywheel?? bobcat you are not doing yourself or sw any favours with your continual waffle and faliure to produce the goods as demanded by the forum members...you claim its for security and the copywrite of the members whos car you tested....why cant you give us a list of vehicles,type and graph that way everyone secures there anonimity. i appreciate it was a hot day and figures may be down but thats life im afraid... bobcat pull you finger out man..... cheers jod __________________ Dum Spiro Spero VOC 20419

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SaffronC70 aka Whitey Last Online: Sep 8th, 2008 00:34 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Walton-on-Thames, Surrey	My run on the day was (an observed) just over 200whp - my car isn't great at dyno days it seems. This compares to 285bhp (crank) from Power Engineering and before then 280whp at VT with prior software. Chris __________________ 3" SW Autos turbo back exhaust - Custom intake - S60R Green Injectors - TD04-19T turbo - MTE ECU remap - BSR Boost Gauge - Powerflex / QBM bushes - 19" Volvo Pegasus alloy wheels - Porsche 993 Turbo Big Red calipers - Volvo S60R front discs - AP Racing Pads - 2004 headlamps and indicators - Koni Yellow Suspension Kit

Jul 26th, 2006, 17:45	#129
adieu Master Member Last Online: Feb 5th, 2021 19:07 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: swindon	Maybe WAYNET5ER If your waiting for answers you might want to have a word with adam over some questions put to him in Oct 2005 that he didn't answer.roflmao. Regards Iain __________________ Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary… That’s what gets you. A turbo: Exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster

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