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Jan 2nd, 2019, 13:30 | #1 | |
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LPG: When will people learn! (???)
Commenting on the woes of another in this forum I read....
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Done right and properly understood, it works. Fuel and depreciation are the two biggest ways to spend money owning a car, yet few actually keep an eye on both at the same time. Many a fool buys a car because it gets good mileage. Done right gassing a car works. For the savings involved, it's worth grasping, how to apply it, and why. I for one have saved best part of the price of a very decent car. In the time it takes to understand, few of us earn enough to be better off doing something else. So I also ask, when will people learn? And how long will it take you to save £15,000? At current taxation levels I'd have to earn nearer £25,000 to get it. To me that's a lotta' time I could use to be doing something else. You? In short, by running a vehicle. most of us are in denial as to where our money really goes.
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Jan 2nd, 2019, 14:38 | #2 |
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855 T5 with 235,000 miles on the clock
I agree. 100,000+ miles of relatively trouble free running on LPG. Done properly, it works very well. Mine was also properly tuned by the fitter along a certain A road in the south. Whilst I had the laptop on my lap adjusting the levels, I looked up to see we were doing 115MPH along the dual carriageway as we made sure it was properly mapped. I think he was a touring car racer in his spare time as he was so smooth I didn't even notice the speed we were doing.
13p per mile on average with only a little loss as peak revs, when I just switch to Unleaded. Very happy and properly the only reason I still own and run the car as it drinks unleaded like a Pompey supporter on Stella. |
Jan 2nd, 2019, 15:06 | #3 | |
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Unfortunatly I can only say it as I find it and I maintain that close friends and others vehicles that I have been in have been very unreliable and that based on this I would not buy or consider a conversion. Due to the nature of my work I purchase my vehicle privately and then charge 45P for the first 10,000 miles and 20P there after (I do 15-25K a year). If I thought I could buy an LPG equipped car and run it whilst claiming 45P a mile I would do so this afternoon. Based on experience however I don't feel I can. To me LPG is a somewhat niche offering which is really applicable to those with the knowledge and ability to run them, a personal interest and ability to work from home or get paid if they break down. For the average person who runs a 2012 model car onwards (as I do) and who is not interested in tinkering they are not really a reliable product based on what I have seen. The EML on is now an MOT failure despite assurances from an LPG owner on here that its not. My post above was regarding someone looking into converting a 2018 model T6 and I voiced my opinion that this is likely more complex and involved than they may think. Its not for me, if you have been successful and have not had EML on etc then that's great, I am happy for you. |
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Jan 2nd, 2019, 15:30 | #4 |
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I've owned a few gas converted vehicles including a monstrous Discovery with a chip tuned 4.6 V8 ! Never had a moments bother.
My current day van, a 2000 MY Vito is on LPG and is truly superb with no issues over the last year. Its very smooth and quiet with no perceptive loss of power and, if I work it out right, I can fill up at a certain supermarket for 55p a litre ! I've saved a fortune. |
Jan 2nd, 2019, 19:34 | #5 | |
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Your story does not make sense and is confusing. Are you saying you purchased a car with LPG already fitted and the EML is on and that is now a MOT failure? If that is the case you are going all the wrong way about things. Myself and others could give you the right advice to sort the issue given some information. You have already been told numerous times that havingthe EML light on is not normal. Constantly banging on "LPG is sh1t" is not helping you or anyone else. If your LPG issue is a current one try doing the same as anyone else and start your own thread with car and system details and we can start to help you |
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Jan 2nd, 2019, 19:49 | #6 | |
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I do not have LPG nor do I intend to as several friends and family have had it and it was unreliable and didn’t work well and consistently. That was the comment that I made. |
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Jan 2nd, 2019, 21:06 | #7 |
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Our friend is right. It can be painful owning an LPG car.
Main problem is most of the LPG professional have no idea What thy are doing. Get a proper mechanic with experience on LPG and you’ll experience the pleasure of driving a converted LPG engine. My 240 has got LPG since 1993. Never had any issue in 25 Years. My 320bmw run sweet for 160k miles before selling it. My swift 1.3 run swiftly for 100k miles before selling it. Just need to look after the electric parts, replacing earlier than usual spark plugs, rotor, cables. Also had a golf converted to CNG without any issue. I think I have saved thousands over the Years. Can’t hide conversion can be temperamental. Engine run differently depending on the weather, if it s wet or dry, if you are on a mountain or at the sea. Never run smooth as when you feed the engine with petrol. Loss of power is noticeble. Some cars will need to adjust the valve every 20/30k miles. Others will not last over 100k miles. It’s always a compromise running an LPG scar and probably something will go wrong. |
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Jan 2nd, 2019, 21:48 | #8 | |
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The answer I gave (used to open this thread) was regarding someone buying a 2018 xc90 t6 and LPG it. The mind boggles at the complexity and difficulty this would require. Well done on your installations, sounds good. |
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