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V60 Polestar - what are people paying?

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Old Nov 28th, 2015, 17:19   #11
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It's the kind of car you lease or buy new, run for two or three years then get out.
I read somewhere that 80% of the parts are model specific. You will always be tied into Volvo with one for servicing and when they call time you have probably until the stock runs out for spares.
Cracking car though unfortunately my annual mileage has just gone up so I will only get one if I can persuade the family to give up bricks and mortar and buy into the mobile lifestyle.
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It's the kind of car you lease or buy new, run for two or three years then get out.
I read somewhere that 80% of the parts are model specific. You will always be tied into Volvo with one for servicing and when they call time you have probably until the stock runs out for spares.
Cracking car though unfortunately my annual mileage has just gone up so I will only get one if I can persuade the family to give up bricks and mortar and buy into the mobile lifestyle.
EU consumer legislation says manufacturer has to hold all spares for 10 years.
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That's for the mainstream cars, can't see them enforcing it for a one off special edition which accounts for less than 1% of sales. They could sink companies when there are specialist components which fit no other spec. in the range.
Try pricing up a front set of disks, pads and callipers for a Polestar S/V60. If they are sold out 8 years after the last car goes out the showroom would they really have to retool the supplier to produce another batch ? Would you want to buy such spare parts with that additional cost ? It may be legislation but the market would probably say you know what, at that price you can keep it mate.
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That's for the mainstream cars, can't see them enforcing it for a one off special edition which accounts for less than 1% of sales. They could sink companies when there are specialist components which fit no other spec. in the range.
Try pricing up a front set of disks, pads and callipers for a Polestar S/V60. If they are sold out 8 years after the last car goes out the showroom would they really have to retool the supplier to produce another batch ? Would you want to buy such spare parts with that additional cost ? It may be legislation but the market would probably say you know what, at that price you can keep it mate.
The production run is over 500 cars which makes it a mainstream car.

I would expect things like the brakes and suspension to be standard items from a specialist manufacture anyway.

Try Pistonheads ads in a few years time, people will still be raving over them.
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The production run is over 500 cars which makes it a mainstream car.
You seem quite sure of that.

The original run was for 50 cars for Australia.

A quick look on Autotrader shows 8. A look in Howmanyleft.co.uk has 32 in 2014 and 69 in 2015 V60s there are no S60s listed so must be able to count those on your fingers.
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Canada, the Netherlands, Japan, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, and United States there might have been 501 made to meet the standards. It would be interesting if anyone with a Polestar can verify the CoC date from their V5C and compare that with a standard V60.
My S60 has a Spanish e9 type approval code from week 46 in 2007.
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You seem quite sure of that.

The original run was for 50 cars for Australia.

A quick look on Autotrader shows 8. A look in Howmanyleft.co.uk has 32 in 2014 and 69 in 2015 V60s there are no S60s listed so must be able to count those on your fingers.
Given they were offered in:
Canada, the Netherlands, Japan, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, and United States there might have been 501 made to meet the standards. It would be interesting if anyone with a Polestar can verify the CoC date from their V5C and compare that with a standard V60.
My S60 has a Spanish e9 type approval code from week 46 in 2007.
Not sure where that Australia info came from, the Volvo press release states.... https://www.media.volvocars.com/glob...-v60-polestar3

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The Volvo factory in Torslanda celebrated 50 years recently with a total of over 6.8 million cars having been produced, starting with the Amazon model in 1964 and all the way to the new S60 and V60 Polestar today. The Polestar model also marks the first ever independent partner being introduced to the production process.

”We are delighted to see the first cars leave the factory and it has been an exciting journey together with Polestar to see these cars from the drawing board until the actual finalized product being produced with us on the factory line,” said Magnus Hellsten, Vice President Car Manufacturing Europe at Volvo Cars.

A total of 750 cars will be produced of the S60 and V60 Polestar model this year, heading to customers in Canada, the Netherlands, Japan, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom and the USA.
That's for 2014, this is the release for 2015 https://www.media.volvocars.com/glob...o-13-countries

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After substantially exceeding customer demand expectations in 2014, the Volvo S60 and V60 Polestar get a renewed production of 750 cars in 2015 and expand to 13 countries around the world.



”We are delighted to see the positive response from customers all over the world on our very first production car. This marks another important milestone for Polestar,” said Christian Dahl, CEO of Polestar.



After rolling out the cars to customers in eight countries last year, the S60 and V60 Polestar will be expanded to the Middle East for 2015, a region showing strong interest for Polestar. The new countries to get the MY16 Volvo S60 and V60 Polestar include Bahrain, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates.
That's 1,500 since the start of production.
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I'd still be interested in seeing what CoC these cars have been registered with.

If they are all registered on the same CoC or if the Polestar is a separate 'model' if so then you get your 10 years parts guarantee otherwise I suspect there will be some agreement whereby x% of all parts have to be available.

The 50 cars for Australia was the initial run in 2013.

Given those 750 cars are headed for 4/7 markets outside the EU, will the EU rules for 10 year parts support still apply ?
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I'd still be interested in seeing what CoC these cars have been registered with.

If they are all registered on the same CoC or if the Polestar is a separate 'model' if so then you get your 10 years parts guarantee otherwise I suspect there will be some agreement whereby x% of all parts have to be available.

The 50 cars for Australia was the initial run in 2013.

Given those 750 cars are headed for 4/7 markets outside the EU, will the EU rules for 10 year parts support still apply ?
I just updated my post to reflect this years figures. There is no exemption for manufactures selling in the EU.

You can still buy parts for the P1800 and there aren't a lot of those around either.
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You can still buy parts for the P1800 and there aren't a lot of those around either.
That is not a comparison. That's like saying in 40 years time I can get parts for a V60 without telling us if you can get parts for a limited run performance model.

What you are saying is if they sell 300 Polestar's in all EU markets and 500 in Saudi Arabia and the US respectively a local Volvo dealer in the Upper Ribble valley NW England has to have access to RHD parts for a car he might never see ten years after production for a total of 1,500 cars ? Combine that with Volvo's struggle to get the average emissions across the whole range down to 95g/km in the next four years to see why Volvo might have a problem on their hands considering their biggest sellers are a medium and a large SUV.
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That is not a comparison. That's like saying in 40 years time I can get parts for a V60 without telling us if you can get parts for a limited run performance model.
That was a joke in part, but Volvo have a parts division that caters for out of production models. Also specialist will arise to cater for an enthusiast product like the Polestar V60 anyway.

Volvo have said they are increasing production due to demand so there will be a significant number on the road before production ceases some time in the future.

I can think of many sports orientated cars with small production runs still on the road after many years.
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