motorbike - Page 2

Gareths306 · Nov 18th, 2006, 22:26

thanks mate, i'll check the links out!

Nov 19th, 2006, 10:01

I have a Kwaka ZZR 600 sports tourer. Fully loaded, top box, panniers, phone, GPS, music/radio, its great fun, when the weather allows. But as mentioned, respect, for you, other road users etc. You can get about far easier, quicker, economically, no parking charges, no congestion charges in the cities. Miss treat them, act like an idiot and they will at best, flippin' hurt a lot, at worst make you push up the daisies.
CBT is a glorified cycle proficiency test. If you can drive a car you should pass this easily. Regards licence, check you are allowed. On the licence (paper) it lists the catagories of vehicles you are allowed to drive/ride.
In the "stamp" box it should say "A" which means you can ride a bike. If it has "dashes" through this, then you will need to apply for bike to be added to your list of vehicles. This will mean sending your licence away to be amended.
Good luck and ride safely
V70 driver

kevinbis · Nov 19th, 2006, 11:14

Strange time of the year to think about starting to ride a bike!

I've recently given it up and sold my Pan European.

I found it either too wet, cold or too hot.

Hot is the worst, when you have a car sitting at home with air con.

You certainly have to have your wits about you on a bike these days. I regard myself a fortunate to have given up after 25 years of riding with all my limbs in tact. I come off twice in that time. 1st was a bend in the wet that i did not make (my fault) 2nd was a car pulling out. both times, i was not hurt.
On my final week I had another bike clip me as he under took me, I was on outside lane doing 70mph and he was probaly doing twice that. As if its not bad enough that very car is a potential hazard?

Anyway, I dont suppose anyone can talk you out of getting a bike, I know I have been there.
When you start hearing about other bikers around you losing limbs and dying.
Take the hint!

imac · Nov 19th, 2006, 16:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by callyuk

if you have got your full licence then yeah you can ride any bike but my guess is that you dont cause your the same age as me and we were not able to take a full licence till we were 21 which would have been 2003

I've had a full unrestricted manual license since I was 19.

I took the test when I was 17, was restricted 2 years to 33bhp, then now unrestricted. You mean you're not allowed to take the DAS until 21?

Nov 19th, 2006, 17:15

If you have a full unrestricted manual licence this is for a car. Check your licence. It should have a picture of motorcycle. If it has "A" by it then you can ride a motorcycle. Now you can apply for your CBT and train appropriately. If on your licence you do not have the priviledge stated then you need to apply for the motorcycle to be added to your priviledges on your licence. You cannot ride a motorcycle under any circumstance without this on your licence.
V70 driver

Quote:

Originally Posted by imac

I've had a full unrestricted manual license since I was 19.

I took the test when I was 17, was restricted 2 years to 33bhp, then now unrestricted. You mean you're not allowed to take the DAS until 21?

imac · Nov 19th, 2006, 17:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by V70driver

If you have a full unrestricted manual licence this is for a car. Check your licence. It should have a picture of motorcycle. If it has "A" by it then you can ride a motorcycle. Now you can apply for your CBT and train appropriately. If on your licence you do not have the priviledge stated then you need to apply for the motorcycle to be added to your priviledges on your licence. You cannot ride a motorcycle under any circumstance without this on your licence.
V70 driver

No sorry, I have a full unrestricted MOTORCYCLE license in addition to a car license. I've been riding bikes or all sizes for about 5 years now.

What I was trying to get through was that if you take a MOTORCYCLE test when you're 17, you're restricted to 33hp for 2 years from the test pass date. So in my case my license became unrestricted when I was 19 years old.

Gareths306 · Nov 19th, 2006, 18:21

cheers guys! i'm thinking get a bike to avoid the bristol traffic. but would take time to put leathers on, helmet, etc.. probably wouldn't be much in it then!!
just considering at the mo!

DSK · Nov 20th, 2006, 22:49

I have been riding since I was 21yrs old (now 27), I went down the Direct Access route but took my time with the lessons (not the 5 day intensive course). Other have explained the lessons aspect to you so I wont bother. I learnt towards the end of summer and passed the test in November. Bought a ZX6R Ninja and rode it thorugh every winter including snow and usual wintery conditions. Always wear suitable clothing for the conditions and in winter if you don't have the right stuff (doesn't always cost a fortune) you will end up cold and wet.

As for beating the traffic, you can gain time by filtering to the head of long ques etc which does make life easier but you have to be sensible and keep your wits about you at all times on a bike. (some car drivers will deliberately try to screw you up and many car drivers poor road awareness). When necessary and safe to do so overtakes and picking off traffic is easier especially on a decent 500/600cc + Riding a bike really does open your eyes in a whole new way and when you have a sports 600/1000 it really is a bonkers thrill like no other.

As for a bike, there is as much choice in the motorcycle showrooms and used markets as there is within the car market, so finding a suitable motorcycle should not be very hard.

cootuk · Nov 20th, 2006, 23:34

Don't do it!
I had a motorbike until I was 22...a few crashes, one I was lucky to walk away from (my fault). I think all bikes should be banned as they are simply at too much risk from dozy car drivers. A motorbike is inherently unstable and the consequences of even a minor bump can be horrendous. I count several friends in the number of dead.
It looks good. It seems economical. Everything going for it.
But in any city/A road today there are just too many plonkers in cars for a bike to be safe.
Even on B roads there's mud etc....

imac · Nov 20th, 2006, 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by cootuk

Don't do it!
I had a motorbike until I was 22...a few crashes, one I was lucky to walk away from (my fault). I think all bikes should be banned as they are simply at too much risk from dozy car drivers. A motorbike is inherently unstable and the consequences of even a minor bump can be horrendous. I count several friends in the number of dead.
It looks good. It seems economical. Everything going for it.
But in any city/A road today there are just too many plonkers in cars for a bike to be safe.
Even on B roads there's mud etc....

Hm. Bit drastic.

Sure, there are plenty of downsides (Cold, wet, more dangerous) etc. However I rode a variety of bikes for a few years before I moved onto cars. The sense of freedom on a bike is so much greater than a car, the 'buzz' you get from opening up the throttle and feeling the surge of the bike.. the fresh air filtering into the helmet... it's a great feeling.

Sure, in reality its not very practical and a car is almost always better... but being on a bike is a buzz and whats life if its not for living?

Nov 19th, 2006, 10:01	#12
V70driver Guest Location:	two penny worth I have a Kwaka ZZR 600 sports tourer. Fully loaded, top box, panniers, phone, GPS, music/radio, its great fun, when the weather allows. But as mentioned, respect, for you, other road users etc. You can get about far easier, quicker, economically, no parking charges, no congestion charges in the cities. Miss treat them, act like an idiot and they will at best, flippin' hurt a lot, at worst make you push up the daisies. CBT is a glorified cycle proficiency test. If you can drive a car you should pass this easily. Regards licence, check you are allowed. On the licence (paper) it lists the catagories of vehicles you are allowed to drive/ride. In the "stamp" box it should say "A" which means you can ride a bike. If it has "dashes" through this, then you will need to apply for bike to be added to your list of vehicles. This will mean sending your licence away to be amended. Good luck and ride safely V70 driver

Nov 19th, 2006, 11:14	#13
kevinbis VOC Member Last Online: Feb 2nd, 2017 10:58 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Shoeburyness, Essex View Photos By: kevinbis	Strange time of the year to think about starting to ride a bike! I've recently given it up and sold my Pan European. I found it either too wet, cold or too hot. Hot is the worst, when you have a car sitting at home with air con. You certainly have to have your wits about you on a bike these days. I regard myself a fortunate to have given up after 25 years of riding with all my limbs in tact. I come off twice in that time. 1st was a bend in the wet that i did not make (my fault) 2nd was a car pulling out. both times, i was not hurt. On my final week I had another bike clip me as he under took me, I was on outside lane doing 70mph and he was probaly doing twice that. As if its not bad enough that very car is a potential hazard? Anyway, I dont suppose anyone can talk you out of getting a bike, I know I have been there. When you start hearing about other bikers around you losing limbs and dying. Take the hint! __________________ Volvo V70 T5 CD 1997 Audi TT 2003

Nov 18th, 2006, 22:26	#11
Gareths306 Premier Member Last Online: May 22nd, 2014 07:23 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: its a town	thanks mate, i'll check the links out!

Nov 19th, 2006, 18:21	#17
Gareths306 Premier Member Last Online: May 22nd, 2014 07:23 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: its a town	cheers guys! i'm thinking get a bike to avoid the bristol traffic. but would take time to put leathers on, helmet, etc.. probably wouldn't be much in it then!! just considering at the mo!

Nov 20th, 2006, 22:49	#18
DSK C70 T5 Last Online: Mar 23rd, 2022 21:00 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Midlands	I have been riding since I was 21yrs old (now 27), I went down the Direct Access route but took my time with the lessons (not the 5 day intensive course). Other have explained the lessons aspect to you so I wont bother. I learnt towards the end of summer and passed the test in November. Bought a ZX6R Ninja and rode it thorugh every winter including snow and usual wintery conditions. Always wear suitable clothing for the conditions and in winter if you don't have the right stuff (doesn't always cost a fortune) you will end up cold and wet. As for beating the traffic, you can gain time by filtering to the head of long ques etc which does make life easier but you have to be sensible and keep your wits about you at all times on a bike. (some car drivers will deliberately try to screw you up and many car drivers poor road awareness). When necessary and safe to do so overtakes and picking off traffic is easier especially on a decent 500/600cc + Riding a bike really does open your eyes in a whole new way and when you have a sports 600/1000 it really is a bonkers thrill like no other. As for a bike, there is as much choice in the motorcycle showrooms and used markets as there is within the car market, so finding a suitable motorcycle should not be very hard.

Nov 20th, 2006, 23:34	#19
cootuk Premier Member Last Online: Apr 22nd, 2013 20:52 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: bradford	Don't do it! I had a motorbike until I was 22...a few crashes, one I was lucky to walk away from (my fault). I think all bikes should be banned as they are simply at too much risk from dozy car drivers. A motorbike is inherently unstable and the consequences of even a minor bump can be horrendous. I count several friends in the number of dead. It looks good. It seems economical. Everything going for it. But in any city/A road today there are just too many plonkers in cars for a bike to be safe. Even on B roads there's mud etc....

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