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Old Jan 18th, 2019, 20:29   #11
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How have people found wear on their replacement covers? Was this just poor leather in the early SPA cars, or are replacements going bad too?
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Old Jan 18th, 2019, 21:32   #12
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You dont feed modern leather, its got a clear coat on it, all that happens is that you build up an invisible residue that traps dirt and grit that you then sit on and it abraded the surface.

Its essential to keep it clean, water and a micro fibre are good enough if youre not all that fussy, I use Dr Leather myself.

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http://www.drleather.com/Files/Some-...-DRL-only.aspx
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You dont feed modern leather, its got a clear coat on it, all that happens is that you build up an invisible residue that traps dirt and grit that you then sit on and it abraded the surface.

Its essential to keep it clean, water and a micro fibre are good enough if youre not all that fussy, I use Dr Leather myself.

Some info below.

http://www.drleather.com/Files/Some-...-DRL-only.aspx
The leather in my Volvo certainly does not have a clear coat on it, or if it has it is completely porous. It sucks any leather balm or the wax stuff right in, not at all like the 20 year old leather on my Land Cruiser. 20 years, much of it driven in overalls is a good test I’d say.
However even that is more porous than Mercedes faux-leather seats [artico?] which is just a type of vinyl.
Within a couple of hours the leather treatment has completely disappeared on my black seats, leaving zero residue to stain clothes or attract grinding dust etc.

The Momentum trim leather does look harder and may well be coated with something more impermeable than mine.
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The leather in my Volvo certainly does not have a clear coat on it, or if it has it is completely porous. It sucks any leather balm or the wax stuff right in, not at all like the 20 year old leather on my Land Cruiser. 20 years, much of it driven in overalls is a good test I’d say.
However even that is more porous than Mercedes faux-leather seats [artico?] which is just a type of vinyl.
Within a couple of hours the leather treatment has completely disappeared on my black seats, leaving zero residue to stain clothes or attract grinding dust etc.

The Momentum trim leather does look harder and may well be coated with something more impermeable than mine.
Its all like that now, , you wont see that layer, most of it evaporates, but it will be there. I learned the hard way with leather wear a few years back and done the research essentially modern car leather has a couple of coats of ‘paint’ and a clear coat and needs cleaned, but not fed.

Have a look yourself round the web, most of the rather cleaners are really out of date. Detailing world has a few experts and there are great articles on Dr Leathers site about the standards and care of modern leathers.
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Old Jan 19th, 2019, 10:29   #15
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Never tried Dr Leather product, but the description in the info sheet seems spot on regarding modern leather technology - modern coatings and tanning processes completely remove any requirement for "hide food" type treatments.

I went through all this when we had a suite recovered in leather from Andrew Muirhead http://www.muirhead.co.uk/home/Main.aspx which our leather specialist upholsterers considered the best for seating. We were told exactly the same regarding cleaning and care - don't use "hide food" type treatments - they'll just sit on the surface.
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You dont feed modern leather, its got a clear coat on it, all that happens is that you build up an invisible residue that traps dirt and grit that you then sit on and it abraded the surface.

Its essential to keep it clean, water and a micro fibre are good enough if youre not all that fussy, I use Dr Leather myself.

Some info below.

http://www.drleather.com/Files/Some-...-DRL-only.aspx
If you buy the Volvo leather wipes you get 2 things in the pack. A cleaning wipe (which works well btw) and a cream for applying after cleaning. If the cream is not "feeding" the leather - and the leather has an impervious clear coat on top - then what is the cream doing?

I have been treating the tiny cracks in my seat bolster with the cream to try and keep it looking better for longer - and being the Volvo product assumed it was fit for purpose - but in your opinion is that not the case?
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If anyone has the "Volvo Leather Care Kit", could they check the label for any details of its contents?
That may be of some assistance.
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Don’t complain when the leather cracks and the surface scuffs if you haven’t taken care of your leather by feeding it occasionally.
Saying "but the internet said it doesn’t need feeding" will not restore the leather.

It doesn’t take much work. About 15 minutes once or twice a year is all i’ve ever done, giving special attention to the stitching on the outer bolsters.
All I can say is that it seems to have worked. Which reminds me to do the Qashqai, which is at home today.....no, scrub that, this one doesn’t have leather Getting old
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How have people found wear on their replacement covers? Was this just poor leather in the early SPA cars, or are replacements going bad too?
No problems so far and done 4x the mileage since replacement.
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Here’s a cut & paste from the Volvo website:

Volvo offers a comprehensive product, Volvo Leather Care Kit/Wipes, for the cleaning and treatment of leather upholstery. When the product is used in accordance with the instructions, it preserves the leather's protective coating.

Open to interpretation, and mine is that there is a protective layer which should be protected. Volvo’s videos talk about conditioning fluid being left to soak in (I’m paraphrasing), but I note that the car being treated in the video was the last model XC60 and could be very different to a more modern leather on the SPA cars.
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