440 non starter???

Ian Fife · Aug 1st, 2014, 19:52

Got back to the 440 this afternoon after a short run, turned the key and - nothing. All usual lights on the dash, but no starter turning over (its a manual car, so inhibition switch was not the problem.
Eventually (after it cooled?) it did start as usual.
Question is - does this Volvo (B20 renault engine) have a relay between the ignition switch and the starter, or is it just like all the other older cars I've had and just has a solenoid on top of the starter?
I don't want to go looking for a little hidden relay if there isn't one involved in activating the starter!
Any answers gratefully received
The Haynes Manual by the way was not very helpful...........

Ian F.

Ian Fife · Aug 2nd, 2014, 10:27

Think I have worked this one out - no relay involved, just the starter solenoid (which is a kind of relay I guess)

Ian F.

Anadinolin · Aug 2nd, 2014, 11:08

Is it fixed now? I was thinking a temperature sensor problem because what you said about cooling down hehe.

brokenbritain · Aug 2nd, 2014, 11:17

It's likely to be the starter motor but you need it not to start ideally so you can do a simple test on the wiring, it needs to be properly diagnosed or you may just be jumping to conclusions...

Ian Fife · Aug 2nd, 2014, 11:43

Started OK this morning so (as usual) I will just drive it and wait for it to fail completely!! I am just relieved that it appears to be a solenoid/switch/wiring problem and not involving a relay or an ECU...............

Ian F.

doingitsideways · Aug 2nd, 2014, 15:22

Yeah, does sound like the solenoid on the starter.

Either that or maybe a loose spade connector attatching the switched live cable to it.
Had that before

Steve

Aug 1st, 2014, 19:52	#1
Ian Fife Senior Member Last Online: Today 09:09 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inverkeithing	440 non starter??? Got back to the 440 this afternoon after a short run, turned the key and - nothing. All usual lights on the dash, but no starter turning over (its a manual car, so inhibition switch was not the problem. Eventually (after it cooled?) it did start as usual. Question is - does this Volvo (B20 renault engine) have a relay between the ignition switch and the starter, or is it just like all the other older cars I've had and just has a solenoid on top of the starter? I don't want to go looking for a little hidden relay if there isn't one involved in activating the starter! Any answers gratefully received The Haynes Manual by the way was not very helpful........... Ian F.

Aug 2nd, 2014, 11:08	#3
Anadinolin VOC Member Last Online: Jun 20th, 2022 14:32 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Upminster View Photos By: Anadinolin	Is it fixed now? I was thinking a temperature sensor problem because what you said about cooling down hehe. __________________ what good music deserves is full deep bass to give it warmth. the stock volvo sub works....just at high volumes Drum n Bass and dubstep

Aug 2nd, 2014, 11:17	#4
brokenbritain Senior Member Last Online: Mar 29th, 2019 01:52 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Martock , Somerset TA12 6HB	440 It's likely to be the starter motor but you need it not to start ideally so you can do a simple test on the wiring, it needs to be properly diagnosed or you may just be jumping to conclusions...

Aug 2nd, 2014, 15:22	#6
doingitsideways The Daddy Last Online: Feb 29th, 2024 15:07 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Manchester	Yeah, does sound like the solenoid on the starter. Either that or maybe a loose spade connector attatching the switched live cable to it. Had that before Steve __________________ XC90 V8 Exec, C70 2.4T Convertible, S70 T5 CD, 850 TDI, 2 x Escort vans and a 2.8i Capri. Clearout has begun, but must continue!

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Aug 2nd, 2014, 10:27	#2
Ian Fife Senior Member Last Online: Today 09:09 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inverkeithing	Think I have worked this one out - no relay involved, just the starter solenoid (which is a kind of relay I guess) Ian F.

Aug 2nd, 2014, 11:43	#5
Ian Fife Senior Member Last Online: Today 09:09 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Inverkeithing	Started OK this morning so (as usual) I will just drive it and wait for it to fail completely!! I am just relieved that it appears to be a solenoid/switch/wiring problem and not involving a relay or an ECU............... Ian F.

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