VOC IS A WASTE OF MONEY - Page 4

liuleichan · Jul 3rd, 2003, 17:43

>oh right, hope i don't have to do that, be hard to get even
>thickness i imagine.
>cheers.

Well it's not exactly a huge area, and that's what the roller is for, I guess.

Lei Chan

Jul 3rd, 2003, 18:10

Well guys got a complete head inc cams arriving tomorrow from lea valley in london. cost £350 all in. think price a bit steep really but they insist it been thoroughly checked and is in perfect order. fitting myself, done loads of them in past, not 850 though so any tips out there will be welcome.
Still waiting for my car to come back from volvo specialists, recovery company didn't collect today as agreed,incompetent idiots they seem,rang and spoke to someone with 1 brain cell or so he sounded ,didn't have a clue and said ring back tomorrow,10 min later his boss rings me and said been up to neck in it today and will collect for certain in morning, then says do you want us to fit head for you. Not bloody likely just bring her home in one piece with no damage mate.

Chris_Rogers · Jul 3rd, 2003, 20:43

Make sure you use the tools to hold the top cam cover down via spark plug holes. See Haynes.
If you don't you will strip the threads on the small bolts and have to buy a new head.

Jul 3rd, 2003, 21:09

Cheers Chris, just been reading up on it in Haynes, think I will ring this volvo specialist first thing in morning for a quote on doing it for me, a bit more to it than the old in-line engine with just a head and shimmed tappets isn't there, I will save £50 quid on recovering the car from there to start with.

Jul 3rd, 2003, 23:12

liquid gaskets are becoming increasingly popular and do have to be applied by roller - not the head gasket though! Do not add any liquids etc when fitting it - it is MLS (multi layeed steel) and needs to go on dry and clean.
I think you find liquid gaskets on the bedplate/block and sump/bedplate joints - and rocker cover ?

Make sure your head bolts are very clean as the threads in the block can be fragile

S

Philip Fisher · Jul 4th, 2003, 12:33

And make sure that you fit new head stretch bolts also.

When I bought mine, some previous owner/mechanic had had the head off and then torqued it back with the old stretch bolts (which had obviously stretched and got longer). The result was bolts which hit the bottom of the threaded cavity in the block and put a stress on the block. 5 Months after I had bought the car, a 4 inch crack appeared in the block and I had to shell out £1700 on a secondhand engine, clutch, belts, fluids etc...

Someone elses mistake proved very pricey for me!

Jul 4th, 2003, 13:03

OUCH !

I never realised they were that close to bottoming out ... thanks for the warning. These threads are generally rolled in production which gives them a larger core diameter than cut threads. If the bolts are close to bottom limit there can be very little thread engagement diameter left and ... Stripppppp .. not so expensice as your problem but a real pain in the a$$ never the less ...

Brgds

Steve

Jul 5th, 2003, 00:18

Not taking a chance guys,car still at specialists,I'm getting him to fit it all. I supply Head with valves,tappets, cams. He supplying all rest inc new timing belt,that sealing stuff,new oil,filter etc. And his superior knowledge and his fault if go wrong. Ha Ha. Charging me £500. Saved £50 on transporting car back home anyway. Is this cheaper than main dealer, anyone know ?
Will use him in future if I know he cheaper than main dealer, definitely knows what he's talking about with Volvo's anyway.
I Estimate this will have cost me £990 all inc.

Simon Linton · Jul 5th, 2003, 09:43

Well I think that proves the value of the Club - much useful info even for those lucky enough not to have a head go south.

Please let us know the final result of all the angst and good luck with your car in the future.

I have to say though, the 2 litre is underpowered - if you can get hold of a larger-engined car (don't try a DIY transplant, please) do so.

Jul 5th, 2003, 18:59

Yes Simon. point taken, humble pie on the menu, but my 2.0i was defnitely qite nippy and not sluggish at all.And was returning 28 MPG around town.
Anyway got head just waiting for a chance to take it to specialist for him to do it,I'm going on hol next Sat for a week so he got plenty of time to do it, unfortunately I am now going on hol in a Mondeo, yuk.

Jul 3rd, 2003, 17:43	#31
liuleichan Premier Member Last Online: Apr 17th, 2019 22:01 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: .	RE: VOC IS A WASTE OF MONEY >oh right, hope i don't have to do that, be hard to get even >thickness i imagine. >cheers. Well it's not exactly a huge area, and that's what the roller is for, I guess. Lei Chan

Jul 3rd, 2003, 18:10	#32
godders41 Guest Location:	RE: VOC IS NOT A WASTE OF MONEY Well guys got a complete head inc cams arriving tomorrow from lea valley in london. cost £350 all in. think price a bit steep really but they insist it been thoroughly checked and is in perfect order. fitting myself, done loads of them in past, not 850 though so any tips out there will be welcome. Still waiting for my car to come back from volvo specialists, recovery company didn't collect today as agreed,incompetent idiots they seem,rang and spoke to someone with 1 brain cell or so he sounded ,didn't have a clue and said ring back tomorrow,10 min later his boss rings me and said been up to neck in it today and will collect for certain in morning, then says do you want us to fit head for you. Not bloody likely just bring her home in one piece with no damage mate.

Jul 3rd, 2003, 20:43	#33
Chris_Rogers VOC Member Last Online: Apr 10th, 2017 16:55 Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: South Kent Coast	RE: VOC IS NOT A WASTE OF MONEY Make sure you use the tools to hold the top cam cover down via spark plug holes. See Haynes. If you don't you will strip the threads on the small bolts and have to buy a new head.

Jul 3rd, 2003, 21:09	#34
godders41 Guest Location:	RE: VOC IS NOT A WASTE OF MONEY Cheers Chris, just been reading up on it in Haynes, think I will ring this volvo specialist first thing in morning for a quote on doing it for me, a bit more to it than the old in-line engine with just a head and shimmed tappets isn't there, I will save £50 quid on recovering the car from there to start with.

Jul 3rd, 2003, 23:12	#35
dr dolittle Guest Location:	RE: VOC IS A WASTE OF MONEY liquid gaskets are becoming increasingly popular and do have to be applied by roller - not the head gasket though! Do not add any liquids etc when fitting it - it is MLS (multi layeed steel) and needs to go on dry and clean. I think you find liquid gaskets on the bedplate/block and sump/bedplate joints - and rocker cover ? Make sure your head bolts are very clean as the threads in the block can be fragile S

Jul 4th, 2003, 12:33	#36
Philip Fisher Premier Member Last Online: Yesterday 19:19 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sheffield	RE: VOC IS A WASTE OF MONEY And make sure that you fit new head stretch bolts also. When I bought mine, some previous owner/mechanic had had the head off and then torqued it back with the old stretch bolts (which had obviously stretched and got longer). The result was bolts which hit the bottom of the threaded cavity in the block and put a stress on the block. 5 Months after I had bought the car, a 4 inch crack appeared in the block and I had to shell out £1700 on a secondhand engine, clutch, belts, fluids etc... Someone elses mistake proved very pricey for me! __________________ Currently:- MY16 XC90 T8 Momentum, Magic Blue 174k miles. MY17 V60 T4 Power Blue. Previously:- 1997 V70 T5 exPolice; 2005 V50 2.0D; 2013 XC70 D5

Jul 4th, 2003, 13:03	#37
dr dolittle Guest Location:	RE: VOC IS A WASTE OF MONEY OUCH ! I never realised they were that close to bottoming out ... thanks for the warning. These threads are generally rolled in production which gives them a larger core diameter than cut threads. If the bolts are close to bottom limit there can be very little thread engagement diameter left and ... Stripppppp .. not so expensice as your problem but a real pain in the a$$ never the less ... Brgds Steve

Jul 5th, 2003, 00:18	#38
godders41 Guest Location:	RE: VOC IS A WASTE OF MONEY Not taking a chance guys,car still at specialists,I'm getting him to fit it all. I supply Head with valves,tappets, cams. He supplying all rest inc new timing belt,that sealing stuff,new oil,filter etc. And his superior knowledge and his fault if go wrong. Ha Ha. Charging me £500. Saved £50 on transporting car back home anyway. Is this cheaper than main dealer, anyone know ? Will use him in future if I know he cheaper than main dealer, definitely knows what he's talking about with Volvo's anyway. I Estimate this will have cost me £990 all inc.

Jul 5th, 2003, 09:43	#39
Simon Linton 850/70 Register Keeper Last Online: Apr 24th, 2008 19:02 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Leicester	As you can see it isn't, is it? Well I think that proves the value of the Club - much useful info even for those lucky enough not to have a head go south. Please let us know the final result of all the angst and good luck with your car in the future. I have to say though, the 2 litre is underpowered - if you can get hold of a larger-engined car (don't try a DIY transplant, please) do so.

Jul 5th, 2003, 18:59	#40
godders41 Guest Location:	RE: As you can see it isn't, is it? Yes Simon. point taken, humble pie on the menu, but my 2.0i was defnitely qite nippy and not sluggish at all.And was returning 28 MPG around town. Anyway got head just waiting for a chance to take it to specialist for him to do it,I'm going on hol next Sat for a week so he got plenty of time to do it, unfortunately I am now going on hol in a Mondeo, yuk.

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