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What is the largest big brake kit to fit under Titans?

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Old Apr 19th, 2019, 22:23   #11
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Not wanting to provoke an argument, but I always thought that providing a brake has the capability to lock a wheel, that is, to overcome the adhesion of the tyre being used, going to bigger brakes will not stop you more quickly in that instant, but rather they may have the ability to continue to stop you at subsequent corners after the first brake has faded. Is my understanding correct?
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Old Apr 19th, 2019, 22:44   #12
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Not wanting to provoke an argument, but I always thought that providing a brake has the capability to lock a wheel, that is, to overcome the adhesion of the tyre being used, going to bigger brakes will not stop you more quickly in that instant, but rather they may have the ability to continue to stop you at subsequent corners after the first brake has faded. Is my understanding correct?

You are correct.

Brake pads are also something to consider. Racing pads are great on the track but rubbish on the road as you need to use the brakes a lot to keep them at operating temperature. Use the right pads for road and then change to the right pads for track when at the track
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Old Apr 19th, 2019, 22:44   #13
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From experience, an insurance company will not invalidate your insurance if you modify your brakes in order to improve performance.
Real world, not theoretical, experience.
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.......providing a brake has the capability to lock a wheel, that is, to overcome the adhesion of the tyre being used, going to bigger brakes will not stop you more quickly in that instant.....
Agree. Brakes - like a lot of modifications - should be approached holistically.

Strapping on a massive BBK whilst leaving a set of part worn Chinese ditchfinder boots on the car with rock hard pads that only work at over 500deg C would be a total waste of time. And likely a lethal combination.

However a good brake upgrade, fast road pads & the best performance tyres you can afford will definitely give you an edge over a standard car. It will stop quicker. If it didn't, what would be the point!?!

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Old Apr 23rd, 2019, 23:10   #15
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All depends on which end of the telescope you're looking:

From the thick end...
For road use - Plod managed fine. You'll never need more than Police spec. brakes. You won't be talented enough, because if you were, you wouldn't be on here, and at the speeds where you'll see a difference, won't keep a licence anyway.

From the thin end...
For race: If you want to go fast, and it was the OP that taught every other F1 driver to press a pedal, then we're talking the wrong car. A rare talent knows this. What is he doing on here?

Talent as this is wasted with such questions.
I for one, lay prostrate at the OP's feet.

Please give hints to the mere mortals here, on how to come even close to such talent, and how to keep a licence using it. I paid £280 last year for insurance, tell us how yours is lower.
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I'm sure it was Father Jack !!
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Old Apr 24th, 2019, 23:29   #16
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I have 17inch Pegs with 10mm off spacers and run Porsche up front and S60 rear. I got them at a decent price and for me (personal preference) they where worth the money at the price I paid.

However think about what you want to do with the car. My 302s with decent pads and discs where fine for a blast on the B road but when I pushed on they would get hot.

As others have send get decent discs from a known brand. I generally stick to OEM (Made by Pagid I believe, which are made by TMD friction) discs and Textar fronts / OEM rear pads.

My insurance are aware and it only added to the premium because I added the market value to the insured value.

However each to there own.
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Old May 4th, 2019, 16:58   #17
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Only just come back to this thread after posting a few weeks ago. Can’t believe the crap some people post. Anyway thanks to all those with helpful comments,much appreciated.

It’s got 302’s at the moment which work fine for the road but I’m used to carbon ceramics on my F80 M3 so thought I might upgrade the Volvo brakes for better feel and for the odd trackday. It’s not a priority at the mo but I would like to get the car driving how I want it so will be changing a few bits here and there but no rush.
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Old May 7th, 2019, 09:26   #18
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Almost all of you have missed the essential point I make. To the point of taking offence. Off you all went about brakes. Despite the modified car having the edge, insurers know, the driver, i stress the driver, with an unmodified car presents the lower risk.

After all, when it's your money, which would you prefer to insure?

One is more dangerous.

Insurers write their book - before the car, on the driver - not their brakes. The house wins.

Mention that you've modified your car, and they'll load you. This has nothing to do with whether your car is made safer. It's because their 'book' and the set of stats it contains, says risk goes up.

So you can bang on all you like, just how wonderful it all is. How I am condescending to you all. Make these points at your next renewal. The more you declare, the harder they'll hit you. This will apply less once you hit your 45th birthday, but you're still going to lose.

I can't kick you into submitting to this reality, however looking at last year's premium compared to mine, I'd be surprised if your insurer hasn't done so already. They've been very condescending. I would put a big bet on you having been demeaned and insulted right where it hurts. Your wallet.

Now go back to banging on about big brakes, you're going to lose to your insurer's 'book' every time. You are more dangerous, they have numbers to prove it. You will lose to this point, and if your premium is more than mine, you already have.

The house will win.
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Old May 7th, 2019, 10:52   #19
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Ah yes, because we all live in the same fallacious world as you where insurance premiums are determined solely by modifications, and doesn't even remotely consider such factors as postcode, age, NCB, agreed market value, length of holding a licence, nationality or any other such thing. No no no, the sole reason your premium might be lower than someone with a modified car is because yours is bone stock.

There are several insurers out there geared up specifically for modified cars and no shortage of cases and instances where people have saved money by modifying their car and switching to one such mod-friendly insurer. There is indeed statistics showing that people who modify their cars take a greater deal of pride in them and are therefore more likely to maintain them to a higher standard and are less likely to have incidents in them. I am not saying that every mod will decrease everyone's insurance, but your blanket statement does not hold and is not true.

This "point" that you keep desperately trying to convince of us does not exist outside of your close-minded ignorance and it really would be better for you drop the fallacy and find a more productive way to contribute to the forums (such as continuing your generally good work in the standard faults and killers thread).
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