xc60 2wd and snow - Page 3

Teejay1 · Dec 19th, 2010, 21:52

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Originally Posted by gillberry

It's interesting to see that on several similar threads there are those who want to have winter tyres and the rest of who do not disagree that they are of benefit but having driven in proper winter conditions in rwd cars without these fantastic driver aids and having no problems .
Surely all those of us posting on these threads can see that there is benefit to winter tyres etc but these do not replace your own driving standards . Yes at the end of the day you as the driver make the difference the aids are just that and should help but only if you are aware in the 1st place of what is happening and how to deal with it .

Agreed, I have not for one minute suggested that winter tyres will make anyone's driving any better or worse. If a person drives like a dick they will continue to drive like that with or without the aids. I bought the car as primarily for comfort and space, not for all the aids that it happens to have.

The last car I had almost no aids except ABS I can count on the fingers of one hand the times it was used, because I leave plenty of space and adjust my driving to the conditions. Last year I was unable to use the car due to several reasons, one of the main ones being the road conditions. I'm fitting winter tyres so I can be mobile and enjoy my weekends in comfort with my wife. Not so I can tool around showing others how great I am.

What's the point having a car that can't be used, for two months of the year.

Another · Dec 19th, 2010, 22:54

Ok so I have the fwd version and until today did not have any problems with the winter stuff

Spent the day poottling around in my wifes '97 Defender and did not think anything of the conditions.well you would not in one of those

Jumped into the xc60 tonight to do a 2 mile local trip and nearly put it in the hedge all over the shop. Just very very slippy, traction light working well but little else. Gave zero confidence even on the 17 inch Michelin semis

I know which car I'll be commuting with tomorrow

TheMrT · Dec 20th, 2010, 15:38

Hello, my experience of the XC60 2WD in snow is the same as any other wide tired 2WD vehicle. Not good. Snow tyres recommended. I agree with the other comments around 2WD v 4WD, tyres will make the biggest difference but of course 4WD with snow tyres is the best option.

thechems · Dec 20th, 2010, 16:23

Love my XC60 but it is pants in the snow. I live up a hill (not a steep one) and had to leave the car quarter of a mile away from home and walk home as it just couldn't handle the hill in snow/ice. I thought "winter tyres" were just the latest clever way to get me to part with some cash. I was wrong. Had them fitted last week and the difference is amazing. XC60 now negotiates the hill with no problem. Money well spent I think.

Matteus XC60 · Dec 20th, 2010, 18:39

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Originally Posted by andy_d

why?
speaking the Truth gets torrents of abuse?? Why ?

Fair enough. Have a go on this thread then.

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=111962

scotgc · Dec 20th, 2010, 19:37

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Originally Posted by ExMercR

Of course they are a fad!

Like seat belts, airbags, radial tyres, Xenon headlights, rear windscreen wipers etc, etc. Fads, the lot of 'em.

Does that make the industrial revolution a fad as well?

Progress is progress and technologies move on, if you are unfortunate enough to be involved in a serious accident you might well be really glad your car has been fitted with a safety "fad".

Jeeese, talk about being a ludite, or are you just out for a wind up?

ExMercR · Dec 20th, 2010, 20:20

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Originally Posted by scotgc

Does that make the industrial revolution a fad as well?

Progress is progress and technologies move on, if you are unfortunate enough to be involved in a serious accident you might well be really glad your car has been fitted with a safety "fad".

Jeeese, talk about being a ludite, or are you just out for a wind up?

Errrr. It's call irony.

Good grief. Do you seriously think I would come here and decry seat belts and airbags?

The fact that technologies move on was exactly my point to the guy who was claiming winter tyres were a fad. But it clearly went over your head.

scotgc · Dec 20th, 2010, 20:25

Maybe I should have read the whole thread!!

155mph · Dec 20th, 2010, 20:27

In response to the OP, absolutely brilliant... with winter tyres on (see below).

Just been to France and back. A foot or so of snow and no problems. Guess then I must be a skilled driver (23 years OTR).

Got my family home safe (unlike some) and I am thankful for my winter tyre-shod XC60.

Bigcheese1 · Dec 20th, 2010, 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotgc

Does that make the industrial revolution a fad as well?

Progress is progress and technologies move on, if you are unfortunate enough to be involved in a serious accident you might well be really glad your car has been fitted with a safety "fad".

Jeeese, talk about being a ludite, or are you just out for a wind up?

I'm afraid I have some bad news for you.

We may be very good at engineering safer and safer cars but the sophisticated subtleties of human risk taking behaviour are far more difficult to engineer.
You may feel far safer and comfortable in a modern car, but the reality is, you face exactly the same risk to life and limb as you did 40 years ago.

Dec 19th, 2010, 22:54	#22
Another Member Last Online: Nov 29th, 2015 18:18 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Somewhere	Ok so I have the fwd version and until today did not have any problems with the winter stuff Spent the day poottling around in my wifes '97 Defender and did not think anything of the conditions.well you would not in one of those Jumped into the xc60 tonight to do a 2 mile local trip and nearly put it in the hedge all over the shop. Just very very slippy, traction light working well but little else. Gave zero confidence even on the 17 inch Michelin semis I know which car I'll be commuting with tomorrow Last edited by Another; Dec 19th, 2010 at 22:55. Reason: Spolling

Dec 20th, 2010, 15:38	#23
TheMrT New Member Last Online: Dec 29th, 2010 12:27 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: London	Like any other 2WD vehicle Hello, my experience of the XC60 2WD in snow is the same as any other wide tired 2WD vehicle. Not good. Snow tyres recommended. I agree with the other comments around 2WD v 4WD, tyres will make the biggest difference but of course 4WD with snow tyres is the best option.

Dec 20th, 2010, 16:23	#24
thechems New Member Last Online: Oct 14th, 2013 13:32 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Manchester	A vote for winter tyres Love my XC60 but it is pants in the snow. I live up a hill (not a steep one) and had to leave the car quarter of a mile away from home and walk home as it just couldn't handle the hill in snow/ice. I thought "winter tyres" were just the latest clever way to get me to part with some cash. I was wrong. Had them fitted last week and the difference is amazing. XC60 now negotiates the hill with no problem. Money well spent I think.

Dec 20th, 2010, 20:27	#29
155mph 1st time Volvo Owner Last Online: Dec 19th, 2019 16:30 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: London View Photos By: 155mph	In response to the OP, absolutely brilliant... with winter tyres on (see below). Just been to France and back. A foot or so of snow and no problems. Guess then I must be a skilled driver (23 years OTR). Got my family home safe (unlike some) and I am thankful for my winter tyre-shod XC60. __________________ MY10 XC60 2.4D SE Lux Geartronic Savile Grey c/w soft beige leather interior Bluetooth, Dark tinted windows, Family Pack + Park Assist Last edited by 155mph; Dec 20th, 2010 at 22:49.

Dec 20th, 2010, 20:25	#28
scotgc Senior Member Last Online: Nov 6th, 2012 21:12 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Falkirk	Maybe I should have read the whole thread!!

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