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Old Oct 31st, 2021, 14:35   #1231
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says deposit now taken!
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From a low flying pigeon?
Ha, ha Dave!
It does seem a bit off that the seller has marked the motor car as sold but allowed the auction to continue, it also seems slightly odd that there were 31 bids on the first day, but none since (I’m not sure everyone interested would have noticed the ‘deposit taken’ notice). Perhaps there is an innocent explanation: maybe the seller is just trying to avoid the auction charges?
I’m a simple soldier, I may well be wrong but somethings seems not quite above board here.
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Ha, ha Dave!
It does seem a bit off that the seller has marked the motor car as sold but allowed the auction to continue, it also seems slightly odd that there were 31 bids on the first day, but none since (I’m not sure everyone interested would have noticed the ‘deposit taken’ notice). Perhaps there is an innocent explanation: maybe the seller is just trying to avoid the auction charges?
I’m a simple soldier, I may well be wrong but somethings seems not quite above board here.
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It's that rotten i can smell it from here Alan!

He could avoid auction fees by saying the item is no longer available/lost/broken/sold elsewhere. I suspect his line of reasoning is that by saying "Deposit taken", it will encourage people to send messages basically saying "if the sale falls through, can they have first refusal?".
By leaving the auction running, it may still attracts bids from genuine buyers who haven't seen the "Deposit now taken" bit and they'll be expecting to secure a car if theirs is the highest bid. It also means that if it gets to auction end and there is a clear high bidder, if the other sale goes ahead, he has to tell that bidder "Sorry but it sold elsewhere, added deposit taken to the listing" or if it doesn't go ahead, he simply contacts the high bidder and arranges hand-over date for the car and the money respectively to each party.
I think it's called hedging your bets but from a seemingly underhand way.
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It's that rotten i can smell it from here Alan!

He could avoid auction fees by saying the item is no longer available/lost/broken/sold elsewhere. I suspect his line of reasoning is that by saying "Deposit taken", it will encourage people to send messages basically saying "if the sale falls through, can they have first refusal?".
By leaving the auction running, it may still attracts bids from genuine buyers who haven't seen the "Deposit now taken" bit and they'll be expecting to secure a car if theirs is the highest bid. It also means that if it gets to auction end and there is a clear high bidder, if the other sale goes ahead, he has to tell that bidder "Sorry but it sold elsewhere, added deposit taken to the listing" or if it doesn't go ahead, he simply contacts the high bidder and arranges hand-over date for the car and the money respectively to each party.
I think it's called hedging your bets but from a seemingly underhand way.
Gosh Dave, I’d never of thought of that - it just seemed that something wasn’t quite right. In that case I’m wondering whether many of the the 31 bids in the first 24 hours aren’t shill bids as well?

Time to get on with the day.

PS. I was just looking at the bidding pattern for this item: some random (probably genuine) bids on the morn of 30 October, then the same 3 bidders driving the price up from £2,999 to £7,100 during the afternoon and evening - and then nothing more.
I know, I should get out more :-).
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I can never understand bidding early!

Decide on your maximum and bang it on with a few seconds to go!!!

It's the last bid you want.

The amount of folks I've seen over the years paying too much in these frenzies!

Nuts!
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I can never understand bidding early!

Decide on your maximum and bang it on with a few seconds to go!!!

It's the last bid you want.

The amount of folks I've seen over the years paying too much in these frenzies!

Nuts!
Well Andrew, if I was looking to pay top dollar for a 30 year old Volvo that is what I would do, which is the reason I don't quite understand the bidding pattern. I'm not sure, but I think we have seen something similar with this seller previously (lots of high bids early on).

If as Dave suggests the 'deposit taken' notice is just a rouse to create a frenzy then we may well see this one advertised again in a fortnight.

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PS. Bidding is now up to £8,100.99 - how is that happening if the motor car is already sold and the seller has taken a deposit?

PPS. The bidding pattern for this Land Rover is remarkably similar: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234251762...p2471758.m4703
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Well Andrew, if I was looking to pay top dollar for a 30 year old Volvo that is what I would do, which is the reason I don't quite understand the bidding pattern. I'm not sure, but I think we have seen something similar with this seller previously (lots of high bids early on).

If as Dave suggests the 'deposit taken' notice is just a rouse to create a frenzy then we may well see this one advertised again in a fortnight.

Alan

PS. Bidding is now up to £8,100.99 - how is that happening if the motor car is already sold and the seller has taken a deposit?

PPS. The bidding pattern for this Land Rover is remarkably similar: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234251762...p2471758.m4703

Ok. You get in touch and say I'll give you 8.5k for the car and will pay a deposit .

I ( the seller), say ok but I'll leave the auction to run and if it makes more I'll give you your money back!

How about that.

Cake and eat it!


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Ok. You get in touch and say I'll give you 8.5k for the car and will pay a deposit .

I ( the seller), say ok but I'll leave the auction to run and if it makes more I'll give you your money back!

How about that.

Cake and eat it!

£8,701 and still climbing - maybe this will be the first 1989 240 to sell for £25,000!
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£8,701 and still climbing - maybe this will be the first 1989 240 to sell for £25,000!
I hope so.

It'll make the 240, 2.0l AUTO,I bought on Saturday good value!

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I hope so.

It'll make the 240, 2.0l AUTO,I bought on Saturday good value!

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