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1969 164 **Spares or repairs**

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Old Oct 26th, 2017, 00:42   #1
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Unhappy 1969 164 **Spares or repairs**

**FOR SPARES OR REPAIR**

Itís with a bit of a heavy heart that Iím putting my 1969 164 up for sale, as I really hoped that I would get this back on the road. Iím admitting defeat but hopefully someone more mechanically minded will succeed where I failed.

The story so farÖ.

A couple of years ago I was told of this car that was languishing in the back garden of a friend of a friend. The previous owner had passed away and the car was going to be scrapped along with his 343. I was told (wrongly) that the car had been a runner but hadnít been driven for some time. Me & a friend went along and bought both cars. The 343 was in reasonable condition and actually ran, but the 164 couldnít be started. The 164 was clearly passed itís prime, with rot in both rear wheel arches & a sizable hole in the spare wheel well. But I really wanted to save the car. It hadnít been taxed since 2006; there was neither history with it nor any record of a MOT on the DVLA database. This leads me to conclude it was last MOTíd in 2005. Although pretty irrelevant, the current mileage shows 112k.

I recognised that it was going to be a labour of love and was up for the challenge of getting it back onto the road and having it as a rolling restoration. I fully intended getting the bodywork issues sorted once the car could be driven. All attempts by me to get it running failed. A good friend of mine (who also happens to be a professional mechanic/MOT tester) had a look. He conducted a compression test which proved to be fine. However, the carbs were absolutely shot. Therefore I had them fully overhauled by Mowatts in Basildon who were renowned for their carburettor skills. I changed the condenser & plugs along with the water & fuel pump, but the blasted thing would still not run. In the end I lost heart/interest and the car sat in my garage for over a year gathering dust.

About a month ago I suddenly got the urge to get the car sorted. To my utter astonishment I discovered a fantastic Volvo specialist (River Way Workshop in Harlow) I got in touch with the owner, Robert, who is a bit of a legend. He agreed to have a look. The car got transported over where I left him to work his magic. Last week he got in contact to tell me that heíd got the car running but I needed to go and see him. Apparently, there had been an issue with the distributer cap which heíd dealt with. Although I was delighted that heíd got the car running, I knew there was a problem. I went and saw him, he was true to his word, and the car fired up and ran. The car has NOT been driven although it does roll unimpeded

HOWEVER, Robert reckons that either the head gasket is on its way out/gone or there is a blockage somewhere within the block which I knew was a regular fault with the B30 engine. Either way, itís not financially viable for me to get him to do the work and Iím not skilled enough to do the work myself. Hence, the reason why Iím now selling the car **FOR SPARES OR REPAIR**.

The car itself is quite unusual. For a start itís black with a light blue leather interior. From doing my research, neither of these were options until the early 1970ís. Furthermore, itís an automatic. It appears that there are less than 10 automatic 164ís left. Given the unusual specification I can only assume that it was either built as a showroom car or perhaps a VIP /Embassy vehicle. Clearly I canít ask the previous owner! The car is still registered in his name but I do have the V5C and an older V5.

The car owes me in excess of £1750, given the cost of the initial purchase, the carb refurb, the River Way bill plus all the other bits and pieces. Now, I fully recognise that I wonít recoup my expenditure but I would like to claw some of it back. Iím looking for @ £1000 but am open to sensible offers.

Iím advertising the car on here first as Iím certain there will be a certain amount of sympathy for my (and the carsí) plight. Otherwise I will be forced to go down the Ebay route. Itís too good to be sent for scrap.

Like I said, there has got to be someone out there with the time, knowledge & skill to get this beast back on the road.

The car is located in the CM16 postcode, approximately 4 miles from J7 M11 or 6 miles from J26 M25. The car will have to be trailered away as itís not taxed nor SORNED or MOTíd. The car is currently in a neighbourís car port. Iíve assured her it will be gone ASAP.

Please fire away any questions you may have. Iíve been as honest as humanly possible when describing the car and the situation

If you PM me a mobile number or email address I am more than happy to send you as may photos as you like.

** PLEASE REMEMBER THIS IS FOR SPARES OR REPAIR**
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Old Oct 26th, 2017, 16:27   #2
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I tried to reply to your previous postings at least twice about your car, but perhaps it all got lost in the ether!
I run a 164E injection with a manual + OD 'box - even less of them around, but when I first read about your car was interested at the outset. Admittedly I don't actually need another one - I still have my late fathers one to restore, but a bit longer in the barn won't hurt it!
Could you therefore send as many pics as you have to convince me I need to see you car please! My home email is paultill@tesco.net but as you can see have a 'handle' on here.
As you rightly imply, the mechanics are a lot less expensive to get acceptable than bodywork, which could be its deathnell, but I hope not. Still, I await your response with interest.

Thanks - Paul
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Old Oct 26th, 2017, 17:17   #3
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I tried to reply to your previous postings at least twice about your car, but perhaps it all got lost in the ether!
I run a 164E injection with a manual + OD 'box - even less of them around, but when I first read about your car was interested at the outset. Admittedly I don't actually need another one - I still have my late fathers one to restore, but a bit longer in the barn won't hurt it!
Could you therefore send as many pics as you have to convince me I need to see you car please! My home email is paultill@tesco.net but as you can see have a 'handle' on here.
As you rightly imply, the mechanics are a lot less expensive to get acceptable than bodywork, which could be its deathnell, but I hope not. Still, I await your response with interest.

Thanks - Paul
Paul,

Apologies it's been ages since I was last on here. I did pick your messages up but they were over a year old hence I didn't reply (sorry once again). As stated, time ran away and the project stalled for far longer than I ever thought. But that's another story.

I hope you're back to full health.

I'll get some pictures done over the next couple of days and will email them over to you.

Cheers
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Old Oct 26th, 2017, 23:08   #4
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Old Oct 27th, 2017, 22:09   #5
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Eddy,

Email sent.

For some reason I'm not allowed to send PM's as I haven't posted 30 times

I may have to post a couple more times
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By the way, the car has only had 1 Registered Keeper

Who ever buys this will be the 2nd owner

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Please send me a couple of pictures to either my phone, 078 28879494 or email kassiemotors@yahoo.com

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Based on my personal experience, my guess would be that the head needs to be pulled and the block needs to be cleaned out. There is most likely a build up of material that has accumulated and hardened, severely restricting the flow of coolant through the block. The rear of the block is especially susceptible to this happening. This could be confirmed by using an IR thermometer to check the temperature at the rear of the block as compared to the front.

For sure, it's much better to be able to do this clean out work yourself as paying someone a regular shop rate to do so would probably become fairly expensive since, though it's just mindless "scraping + scrubbing" that's required, it does take many, many hours of labor.

The head should probably come off anyway so that it could be either confirmed that hardened valve seats have already been installed, or to have this done if that's not the case.
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Based on my personal experience, my guess would be that the head needs to be pulled and the block needs to be cleaned out. There is most likely a build up of material that has accumulated and hardened, severely restricting the flow of coolant through the block. The rear of the block is especially susceptible to this happening. This could be confirmed by using an IR thermometer to check the temperature at the rear of the block as compared to the front.

For sure, it's much better to be able to do this clean out work yourself as paying someone a regular shop rate to do so would probably become fairly expensive since, though it's just mindless "scraping + scrubbing" that's required, it does take many, many hours of labor.

The head should probably come off anyway so that it could be either confirmed that hardened valve seats have already been installed, or to have this done if that's not the case.

Thank you for your advice. Alas I neither have the time nor the technical know how to deal with the issue.

There maybe some interesting news regarding the car later this week. Watch this space

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