S.I.P.S

Oct 31st, 2003, 13:44

Just looked at another 850 (a different one this time) which has SIPS but no driver or passenger airbags. What is SIPS (Side Impact Protection System I know but does it have side airbags or something or just reinforced protection within the doors)?

Another basic question I know but it's important (well maybe).

Rhod

johnt850r · Oct 31st, 2003, 14:48

EH?
Unusual beast should have airbag/s!

SIPS has bags in doors, Volvos been re-inforced for yonks

Oct 31st, 2003, 15:41

Maybe I was wrong but it was a 1993 L 850 2.5 GLT - no passengers airbag and nothing on the steering wheel saying anything about an airbag. But as I can see from the Parkers revies, all 850s have drivers airbags. Should I be looking out for some three letter acronym for an airbag system or something or do I assume there must be an airbag? Were there any 850s without drivers airbags ever (in other markets)?

Rhod

liuleichan · Oct 31st, 2003, 15:49

>EH?
>Unusual beast should have airbag/s!
>
>SIPS has bags in doors, Volvos been re-inforced for yonks

Are the SIPS bags in the doors, or the side / bottom of the front seats?

Lei Chan

liuleichan · Oct 31st, 2003, 15:52

>1993 L 850 2.5 GLT - no airbags drivers or passengers (from
>memory). definitely no passengers one but can remember about
>drivers. Was drivers airbag standard on all 850s then?

Don't know when they became standard, but my 98 S70 has a driver's airbag, no passenger airbag, and SIPS airbags on both sides.

There's normally sitckers decals on the middle door pillars to state what there is in terms of side airbags.

I'm not sure on this, but I think SIPS, initially, may have just been beefed up side protection - I'm not sure it necessarily means that there's SIPS airbags, too.

But as I said, there'll be markings fairly prominently to show you what airbags are there.

Lei Chan

Philip Fisher · Oct 31st, 2003, 17:01

SIPS and SIPS bags are slightly different things.

SIPS has been around for a while now, and I think was on all 850's. It stands for Side Impact Protection system. It is an integrated impact system which absorbs side impacts. Basically in a side impact, the door is designed to hold its shape and to channel the forces down towards the floor of the car. The floor of the car is designed to buckle under the tape box/central console to act as a crumple zone. Thus in a side impact, the two front seats will move together and your sacred tape/cd collection will be sacrificed to save you! If you look under the front seats, you will see that they have steel rams underneath which channel the forces and help the seats to hold their shape. There is also SIPS under the back seat, but I think that this is just a re-inforcing ram as there is no area to crumple at the back.

SIPS bags came later, and I believe that they are standard on all V70's. These are small 12litre air bags in the side of the front seats which help to protect vital organs in a side impact.

On a related note, I saw an 03 reg Passat crash the other day and all 6 air bags went off. They certainly saved the guy as he was still coherent and seemed to only have minor injuries. The passat also had curtain air bags which came down from the roof lining, and seemed to have saved his head from the tree which had stoved the roof in. The only thing of concern was that when we got to the car it was so full of smoke (from the gunpowder charges which inflate the bags) that we thought it was going to catch on fire!

Philip (Mr Safety) Fisher

Philip Fisher · Oct 31st, 2003, 17:05

Forgot to add, you need to look for the letters SRS. These stand for Supplimentary Restraint System. This is because an airbag is considered an extra restaint after the restraint of the seat belt and pre-tensioner. You may also find airbag warning labels on the front screen.

tonyflynn1 · Oct 31st, 2003, 20:12

Hope you don't think it's a rude question Philip but which service are you with?

ajm · Oct 31st, 2003, 21:18

No, you're not wrong, Parkers Guide obviously is! Airbags were not standard on '93 850s and my 1993 K 854 2l 20v GLT doesn't have any, although it has a good smattering of the nicest and most practical optional extras.

Philip has saved me describing the basis of SIPS.

I don't think SRS indicating airbags, either - I believe the seatbelt pre-tensioners are part of SRS and I think all 850s have these, mine certainly does.

Cheers,

AJ

cootuk · Oct 31st, 2003, 21:57

the bags are at the side of the seat just to the door side of your bum.

Oct 31st, 2003, 13:44	#1
Rhod_TT Guest Location:	S.I.P.S Just looked at another 850 (a different one this time) which has SIPS but no driver or passenger airbags. What is SIPS (Side Impact Protection System I know but does it have side airbags or something or just reinforced protection within the doors)? Another basic question I know but it's important (well maybe). Rhod

Oct 31st, 2003, 14:48	#2
johnt850r Member Last Online: May 27th, 2022 02:22 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ashford	RE: S.I.P.S EH? Unusual beast should have airbag/s! SIPS has bags in doors, Volvos been re-inforced for yonks

Oct 31st, 2003, 15:41	#3
Rhod_TT Guest Location:	RE: S.I.P.S Maybe I was wrong but it was a 1993 L 850 2.5 GLT - no passengers airbag and nothing on the steering wheel saying anything about an airbag. But as I can see from the Parkers revies, all 850s have drivers airbags. Should I be looking out for some three letter acronym for an airbag system or something or do I assume there must be an airbag? Were there any 850s without drivers airbags ever (in other markets)? Rhod

Oct 31st, 2003, 15:49	#4
liuleichan Premier Member Last Online: Apr 17th, 2019 22:01 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: .	RE: S.I.P.S >EH? >Unusual beast should have airbag/s! > >SIPS has bags in doors, Volvos been re-inforced for yonks Are the SIPS bags in the doors, or the side / bottom of the front seats? Lei Chan

Oct 31st, 2003, 15:52	#5
liuleichan Premier Member Last Online: Apr 17th, 2019 22:01 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: .	RE: S.I.P.S >1993 L 850 2.5 GLT - no airbags drivers or passengers (from >memory). definitely no passengers one but can remember about >drivers. Was drivers airbag standard on all 850s then? Don't know when they became standard, but my 98 S70 has a driver's airbag, no passenger airbag, and SIPS airbags on both sides. There's normally sitckers decals on the middle door pillars to state what there is in terms of side airbags. I'm not sure on this, but I think SIPS, initially, may have just been beefed up side protection - I'm not sure it necessarily means that there's SIPS airbags, too. But as I said, there'll be markings fairly prominently to show you what airbags are there. Lei Chan

Oct 31st, 2003, 17:01	#6
Philip Fisher Premier Member Last Online: Today 07:36 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sheffield	RE: S.I.P.S SIPS and SIPS bags are slightly different things. SIPS has been around for a while now, and I think was on all 850's. It stands for Side Impact Protection system. It is an integrated impact system which absorbs side impacts. Basically in a side impact, the door is designed to hold its shape and to channel the forces down towards the floor of the car. The floor of the car is designed to buckle under the tape box/central console to act as a crumple zone. Thus in a side impact, the two front seats will move together and your sacred tape/cd collection will be sacrificed to save you! If you look under the front seats, you will see that they have steel rams underneath which channel the forces and help the seats to hold their shape. There is also SIPS under the back seat, but I think that this is just a re-inforcing ram as there is no area to crumple at the back. SIPS bags came later, and I believe that they are standard on all V70's. These are small 12litre air bags in the side of the front seats which help to protect vital organs in a side impact. On a related note, I saw an 03 reg Passat crash the other day and all 6 air bags went off. They certainly saved the guy as he was still coherent and seemed to only have minor injuries. The passat also had curtain air bags which came down from the roof lining, and seemed to have saved his head from the tree which had stoved the roof in. The only thing of concern was that when we got to the car it was so full of smoke (from the gunpowder charges which inflate the bags) that we thought it was going to catch on fire! Philip (Mr Safety) Fisher __________________ Currently:- MY16 XC90 T8 Momentum, Magic Blue 174k miles. MY17 V60 T4 Power Blue. Previously:- 1997 V70 T5 exPolice; 2005 V50 2.0D; 2013 XC70 D5

Oct 31st, 2003, 17:05	#7
Philip Fisher Premier Member Last Online: Today 07:36 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sheffield	RE: S.I.P.S Forgot to add, you need to look for the letters SRS. These stand for Supplimentary Restraint System. This is because an airbag is considered an extra restaint after the restraint of the seat belt and pre-tensioner. You may also find airbag warning labels on the front screen. __________________ Currently:- MY16 XC90 T8 Momentum, Magic Blue 174k miles. MY17 V60 T4 Power Blue. Previously:- 1997 V70 T5 exPolice; 2005 V50 2.0D; 2013 XC70 D5

Oct 31st, 2003, 20:12	#8
tonyflynn1 Senior Member Last Online: Oct 12th, 2022 23:23 Join Date: Jan 1970 Location: Chate	RE: S.I.P.S Hope you don't think it's a rude question Philip but which service are you with?

Oct 31st, 2003, 21:18	#9
ajm Master Member Last Online: Yesterday 22:52 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Inverness	RE: S.I.P.S No, you're not wrong, Parkers Guide obviously is! Airbags were not standard on '93 850s and my 1993 K 854 2l 20v GLT doesn't have any, although it has a good smattering of the nicest and most practical optional extras. Philip has saved me describing the basis of SIPS. I don't think SRS indicating airbags, either - I believe the seatbelt pre-tensioners are part of SRS and I think all 850s have these, mine certainly does. Cheers, AJ

Oct 31st, 2003, 21:57	#10
cootuk Premier Member Last Online: Apr 22nd, 2013 20:52 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: bradford	RE: S.I.P.S the bags are at the side of the seat just to the door side of your bum.

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