timing belt gone? :(

[2010v70d3]

Hi all,
I was driving my car last night, and have had a major breakdown - roadside assistance suggested that it looks as though the timing belt and water pump have gone. I'm obviously gutted! I heard a snapping type noise then lots of warning lights, when the car came to a stop dash saying no coolant.Under the car was big puddle of water.
THough my car was high mileage, i was hoping to run it as my family car for quite a few more years, as it ticked so many boxes of what I want as my family car.
The engine in my car is the 163ps 5 cylinder 2l diesel. From what I can see in the servic history the timing belt was changed at the correct time before i took ownership of the car. I have got a couple of quotes for engine rebuilds today, and its only a few hundred pounds less than what Auto trader values my car at. Does anyone know if other volvo diesel engines can be transplanted in to this car, or does it have t be the same one?
Any other advice would be appreciated too. I'm not sure what to do at this stage! It would not be easy to find another car that has the same spec (my car has adaptive cruise control - something which id been looking out for for ages before finding my car just less than 3 years ago)
Thanks in advance

[Tatsfield]

Assuming that you can mount another engine, the major compatibility issues will be the gearbox and the ECU. The problems arising will be that as you start swapping out bits, they may also have their own compatibility issues. If you can find a non matching engine that mates to your gearbox or whose gearbox will fit to your driveshafts, you will also have to transplant the ECU and hope that it will talk to any other control boxes in the system if it needs to, such as your prized adaptive cruise control! Anything can be done if you have the time, patience,technical ability and money to see it through but will it be worthwhile?

[Austin160]

Really sorry to hear of your troubles. If the belt assembly and water pump were changed just over 3 years ago, I wonder if some ‘kind person’ replaced the long lived original water pump with an aftermarket one.
Kind regards,
Austin.

[ferg55]

If I were in your position I'd seriously consider repairing your car. It may cost nearly as much as the book value, but in my opinion that isn't relevant when you consider that you'd have to spend more than the repair cost to get an equivalent car anyway. Plus, repairing yours has a number of other benefits: you know the car and any issues with it; you retain the benefit of any repairs or routine replacement parts it has had done by you (e.g brake pads, tyres etc); you don't have to go through the hassle of finding another car, or suffer the disappointment if it has it's own set of issues that surface after you take ownership; any new car will either need a cambelt in your ownership (presuming you keep it a while) which will cost a few hundred pounds, or it will have had it done but you are risking the same thing happening , whereas if you rebuild your engine you know it has been done, complete with water pump, and you can ensure Volvo parts are used, then it won't need doing again at further expense whilst in your ownership which offsets the rebuild cost somewhat. Hope this helps.

[tommyweaves]

How sure are you of the extent of any damage to the engine?

I'm just wondering if it's maybe not as bad as you might think?

[Bonefishblues]

Originally Posted by tommyweaves

How sure are you of the extent of any damage to the engine?

I'm just wondering if it's maybe not as bad as you might think?

This. Belt snapped, water pump broke but that doesn't necessarily mean broken engine, especially as you stopped straight away.

[tommyweaves]

Originally Posted by Bonefishblues

This. Belt snapped, water pump broke but that doesn't necessarily mean broken engine, especially as you stopped straight away.

Always look for the simple solutions first!

[Bonefishblues]

Originally Posted by tommyweaves

Always look for the simple solutions first!

...whilst secretly fearing the worst, of course!

[Tatsfield]

You have a right to fear a bad outcome as the engine does not have any clearance between a mistimed valve and the piston head and one rotation is enough to bring them into contact and the OP said " when the car came to a stop", so how many engine rotations might that have been? I would suspect damaged pistons and bent valve stems at the least. It happened to me once and I pulled up "immediately" and shut off the engine but the loud noise in the 20 or 30 feet it took to come to a standstill from 20 mph and turn off the ignition was enough to herald a real mess in the engine.

I also hope it's just a water pump, but I suspect it may be worse. The symptoms would suggest that the pump seized and broke the belt. This tends to substantiate the widely held view that either an existing genuine Volvo pump should be left alone when changing the belt, or that it be replaced with only another genuine Volvo pump.

[tommyweaves]

Originally Posted by Tatsfield

You have a right to fear a bad outcome as the engine does not have any clearance between a mistimed valve and the piston head and one rotation is enough to bring them into contact and the OP said " when the car came to a stop", so how many engine rotations might that have been? I would suspect damaged pistons and bent valve stems at the least. It happened to me once and I pulled up "immediately" and shut off the engine but the loud noise in the 20 or 30 feet it took to come to a standstill from 20 mph and turn off the ignition was enough to herald a real mess in the engine.

I also hope it's just a water pump, but I suspect it may be worse. The symptoms would suggest that the pump seized and broke the belt. This tends to substantiate the widely held view that either an existing genuine Volvo pump should be left alone when changing the belt, or that it be replaced with only another genuine Volvo pump.

I don't think anyone would disagree with that. Trouble is the only information we have is this: "had a major breakdown - roadside assistance suggested that it looks as though the timing belt and water pump have gone. I heard a snapping type noise then lots of warning lights, when the car came to a stop dash saying no coolant. Under the car was big puddle of water."