Spare Tyre Poll - Page 19

Grimble · Jul 22nd, 2016, 14:40

The regulations can say what they like. I'll still change my wheel on the hard shoulder (with a lookout if at all possible). Then get out of there as soon as I can. By reducing your time on the hard shoulder you are reducing your exposure to danger.
If the stats prove that the hard shoulder is such a dangerous place how come they are being converted to an extra lane? With only the intermittent availability of a layby.
All in a feeble attempt to deal with congestion, rather than solve the problem properly by building decent and high capacity roads.

Don't get me started on the useless traffic officers. They would much rather cause miles and hours of tailbacks by coning off a lane than get off their backsides and get a towpole out to pull a broken down vehicle to the next junction. I have seen endless shunts due to this type of totally unnecessary congestion.
Ok, large trucks excepted but you get the idea.

shoppy · Sep 5th, 2016, 22:01

I had blow out on my S80 and the tyre flew of and took part of my front bumper with it just around £2400 of damage. I am glad I had a space saver, as I was up and gone in 30 mins after the initial shock.

Choppie · Sep 24th, 2016, 08:09

Spare well for me, Don't think I'd like to faffing with sealant. I'd prefer full size even if it was steel

RoyMacDonald · Sep 25th, 2016, 03:02

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Originally Posted by Grimble

The regulations can say what they like. I'll still change my wheel on the hard shoulder (with a lookout if at all possible). Then get out of there as soon as I can. By reducing your time on the hard shoulder you are reducing your exposure to danger.
If the stats prove that the hard shoulder is such a dangerous place how come they are being converted to an extra lane? With only the intermittent availability of a layby.
All in a feeble attempt to deal with congestion, rather than solve the problem properly by building decent and high capacity roads.

Don't get me started on the useless traffic officers. They would much rather cause miles and hours of tailbacks by coning off a lane than get off their backsides and get a towpole out to pull a broken down vehicle to the next junction. I have seen endless shunts due to this type of totally unnecessary congestion.
Ok, large trucks excepted but you get the idea.

Get out of your car and over the barrier and stand well back and phone for a recovery truck. Your life is far more important. http://www.msn.com/en-gb/video/headl...m57/vi-BBq2YKe

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Roy

Grimble · Sep 28th, 2016, 11:44

Just last week changed a wheel at the side of a freeway near Miami on a hire car.
Wife was on the lookout.

Did it in 7mins, a personal record. No way was I going to wait in 100deg heat for someone to turn up.

Merely getting in the car in the first place is a risk which I'm willing to take for the benefits it provides. I would suggest changing a car on a single track A road is a far more risky proposition.

Either way, as with most things in life, I prefer to make my own assessment of risk and act accordingly, not to be told what to do by someone unaware of the particular circumstances but making a blanket ruling that 'one size fits all'.

Personal freedom of action is very important to me and if Darwinism beckons, so be it.

Paul240480 · Sep 28th, 2016, 12:06

I wasn't traffic, but immediate response. I did do a 'Motorway Awareness Course'. This included high speed 'follows' and 'stops' as well as high speed reverses on the hard shoulder, and simply standing on the hard shoulder!
I wonder how many have done just that? I , for one was surprised by the noise and 'gusting' from passing vehicles. This was just on the M27, so not the busiest.
Also it is said that if a vehicle is static on the hard shoulder, it will get hit. So safest place is out and over the barrier.

dingov70 · Sep 28th, 2016, 12:38

There are many people of either sex who are infinately capable of changing a damaged rim & tyre quickly & safely . However you also have those destined to collect a Darwin award , merely by the action of exiting their vehicle when stopped on the hard shoulder .

During MOT tester training , we looked at a brand new space saver tyre & we were stunned to establish that "technically " a space saver COULD be declared illegal due to the limited tread depth & the fact it is far narrower than the manufacturers designated tyre for road use . As an MOT tester , any car appearing with this stupid thing supporting the car requiring an MOT will be sent away without being tested . I also did a short driver training course when the car had TWO sapce savers fitted to the front of a diesel vectra . extreme example , but it ploughed on when trying to turn at town speeds .

My view fit a wheel well & a proper bloody tyre & rim combo , oh & get people to change a tyre as part of their driving test along with checking fluid levels

RoyMacDonald · Sep 28th, 2016, 20:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by dingov70

There are many people of either sex who are infinately capable of changing a damaged rim & tyre quickly & safely . However you also have those destined to collect a Darwin award , merely by the action of exiting their vehicle when stopped on the hard shoulder .

During MOT tester training , we looked at a brand new space saver tyre & we were stunned to establish that "technically " a space saver COULD be declared illegal due to the limited tread depth & the fact it is far narrower than the manufacturers designated tyre for road use . As an MOT tester , any car appearing with this stupid thing supporting the car requiring an MOT will be sent away without being tested . I also did a short driver training course when the car had TWO sapce savers fitted to the front of a diesel vectra . extreme example , but it ploughed on when trying to turn at town speeds .

My view fit a wheel well & a proper bloody tyre & rim combo , oh & get people to change a tyre as part of their driving test along with checking fluid levels

Not everybody is physically capable of changing a wheel. Especially if they have been in place a long time. I wouldn't trust my back not to let me down nowadays so I'd leave it to a professional.

Roy

dingov70 · Sep 28th, 2016, 22:34

Roy , again i accept there are a few who would struggle ,however the knowledge would not harm you & may well be of greater benefit in the future .

A friend who does recovery now makes a fortune from changing tyres for healthy men , who have zero knowledge of the process & stand around searching for a wheel swapping app for their Iphone's . Surely you would agree you should be able to check oil & water ,as well as lights weekly with no detriment to your general health

RoyMacDonald · Sep 28th, 2016, 22:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by dingov70

Roy , again i accept there are a few who would struggle ,however the knowledge would not harm you & may well be of greater benefit in the future .

A friend who does recovery now makes a fortune from changing tyres for healthy men , who have zero knowledge of the process & stand around searching for a wheel swapping app for their Iphone's . Surely you would agree you should be able to check oil & water ,as well as lights weekly with no detriment to your general health

Certainly agree about the oil water and brake fluid. The car will tell you if a light is out of course.

Roy

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Jul 22nd, 2016, 14:40	#181
Grimble Grimble Last Online: Feb 4th, 2019 17:54 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Staffordshire	The regulations can say what they like. I'll still change my wheel on the hard shoulder (with a lookout if at all possible). Then get out of there as soon as I can. By reducing your time on the hard shoulder you are reducing your exposure to danger. If the stats prove that the hard shoulder is such a dangerous place how come they are being converted to an extra lane? With only the intermittent availability of a layby. All in a feeble attempt to deal with congestion, rather than solve the problem properly by building decent and high capacity roads. Don't get me started on the useless traffic officers. They would much rather cause miles and hours of tailbacks by coning off a lane than get off their backsides and get a towpole out to pull a broken down vehicle to the next junction. I have seen endless shunts due to this type of totally unnecessary congestion. Ok, large trucks excepted but you get the idea. __________________ 2012 XC60 D4 SE Lux Nav

Sep 24th, 2016, 08:09	#183
Choppie Junior Member Last Online: Aug 5th, 2020 07:33 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Warrington	Spare well for me, Don't think I'd like to faffing with sealant. I'd prefer full size even if it was steel __________________ XC60 (65) R-Design Lux Nav Auto D4 AWD Ice White, Driver Support Pack, Winter Pack, Front and Rear Parking Sensors, Rear Camera, Laminated Privacy Glass;

Sep 28th, 2016, 11:44	#185
Grimble Grimble Last Online: Feb 4th, 2019 17:54 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Staffordshire	Just last week changed a wheel at the side of a freeway near Miami on a hire car. Wife was on the lookout. Did it in 7mins, a personal record. No way was I going to wait in 100deg heat for someone to turn up. Merely getting in the car in the first place is a risk which I'm willing to take for the benefits it provides. I would suggest changing a car on a single track A road is a far more risky proposition. Either way, as with most things in life, I prefer to make my own assessment of risk and act accordingly, not to be told what to do by someone unaware of the particular circumstances but making a blanket ruling that 'one size fits all'. Personal freedom of action is very important to me and if Darwinism beckons, so be it. __________________ 2012 XC60 D4 SE Lux Nav

Sep 28th, 2016, 12:06	#186
Paul240480 Ovlovnut Last Online: Feb 25th, 2024 08:58 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Nivillac View Photos By: Paul240480	I wasn't traffic, but immediate response. I did do a 'Motorway Awareness Course'. This included high speed 'follows' and 'stops' as well as high speed reverses on the hard shoulder, and simply standing on the hard shoulder! I wonder how many have done just that? I , for one was surprised by the noise and 'gusting' from passing vehicles. This was just on the M27, so not the busiest. Also it is said that if a vehicle is static on the hard shoulder, it will get hit. So safest place is out and over the barrier. __________________ 2004 V70 2.4SE Auto 'The Welshmobile’ 2002 Laika Ecovip 400i ( Motorhome on an Iveco 2.8TD) http://www.gitessouthbrittany.com/ http://moncopainmonchien.jimdo.com/

Sep 5th, 2016, 22:01	#182
shoppy Junior Member Last Online: Jul 13th, 2023 13:54 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Sailsbury	I had blow out on my S80 and the tyre flew of and took part of my front bumper with it just around £2400 of damage. I am glad I had a space saver, as I was up and gone in 30 mins after the initial shock.

Sep 28th, 2016, 12:38	#187
dingov70 Master Member Last Online: Yesterday 19:48 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Blackpool	There are many people of either sex who are infinately capable of changing a damaged rim & tyre quickly & safely . However you also have those destined to collect a Darwin award , merely by the action of exiting their vehicle when stopped on the hard shoulder . During MOT tester training , we looked at a brand new space saver tyre & we were stunned to establish that "technically " a space saver COULD be declared illegal due to the limited tread depth & the fact it is far narrower than the manufacturers designated tyre for road use . As an MOT tester , any car appearing with this stupid thing supporting the car requiring an MOT will be sent away without being tested . I also did a short driver training course when the car had TWO sapce savers fitted to the front of a diesel vectra . extreme example , but it ploughed on when trying to turn at town speeds . My view fit a wheel well & a proper bloody tyre & rim combo , oh & get people to change a tyre as part of their driving test along with checking fluid levels __________________ To stupidity & beyond

Sep 28th, 2016, 22:34	#189
dingov70 Master Member Last Online: Yesterday 19:48 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Blackpool	Roy , again i accept there are a few who would struggle ,however the knowledge would not harm you & may well be of greater benefit in the future . A friend who does recovery now makes a fortune from changing tyres for healthy men , who have zero knowledge of the process & stand around searching for a wheel swapping app for their Iphone's . Surely you would agree you should be able to check oil & water ,as well as lights weekly with no detriment to your general health __________________ To stupidity & beyond

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