2.4D (2005 on) Clutch/DMF Rica e-power 205hp

[5cilinder]

Just got the 2.4d (163hp)upgraded to the Rica e-power 205hp
Clutch/DMF doesnt seem to hold
Floor the pedal at 50miles/h in 4th gear and the car accellerates to 60miles/h
and then the rpm shoots to 4000 rpm without gaining speed.
If you dont push it, it seems to be fine
What does this tell me? clutch dont fit for the torque? or worn out anyway?
But if its worn out then it wouldnt be possible to use lower torques as well
Or is there some border territory with the friction material?
I dont notice any rattling noises but a light vibration wich varies if the engine is cold or warm

[outnumbered]

it tells you that the map is too much at the lower end and will destroy the clutch and dmf which will be very costly to fix, can you not get them to tweek it at the lower end so that its progressive .
mike

[t5_monkey]

I'm running 330 lb-ft for the last 2 years with no problems.

Your clutch 'should' be able to handle it.

Does sound like clutch slippage - use more revs when you wanna accelerate to ease up the strain on the clutch.

Just keep using it till it's no good... then get a new clutch.

[5cilinder]

I know that i destroy the clutch if i let it slip on regular basis
The rica remap i choosed is the lightest above the stock 185 hp, so i asume a healthy clutch should hold.
But if my clutch isnt worn out than it should hold, and if it is worn out than you wouldnt be able to drive the car at al or is there a transition period that the clutch is almost worn out and it wont be long before the clutch will slip also on lower torque loads?

The 163 hp and 185 hp euro4 engines are identical hardwarewise is this also for the clutch? or are there differences?

Btw ROFLOL trunkmonkey ;-)

[Nocomplaints1977]

T5Monkey is running a petrol which is a different ballgame to the torque created by a diesel. Diesel torque is created at a far higher amount lower in the rev range which on each cylinder cycle creates a higher point loading on the clutch and DMF.

The clutch will begin to slip beyond a torque threshold, my friend has an brand new 850R clutch in his 850 T5 which is highly modded running an 19T at over 380hp (dynoed) and has had to cap the torque peak by 50nM due to clutch slip so he doesn't kill the clutch, and if you continue to let it slip it will kill the friction material and fail completely.

[5cilinder]

So basicly the diesel stock clutches arent fit for standard remapping?
Or are there better aftermarket clutches?

[Hezi]

Originally Posted by 5cilinder

So basicly the diesel stock clutches arent fit for standard remapping?
Or are there better aftermarket clutches?

What is needed is a decent remap,although the car needs to be right first

[Bernard333]

Originally Posted by 5cilinder

or is there a transition period that the clutch is almost worn out and it wont be long before the clutch will slip also on lower torque loads?

Btw ROFLOL trunkmonkey ;-)

I posted on here about the clutch slipping in high gears on my 2003 V70 D5 about three years ago and the DMF making rattling/rasping noises on hard acceleration . The clutch can still be made to slip in high gears and car shudders in low gears when taking off hard . I did not expect the DMF/clutch to keep going for this extra 40k miles and even have a new set ready to fit but it keeps on going and no noises when driven normally but I wouldnt risk towing with it . My driving is mainly on motorways so I am hoping it could make it to 200k miles in its present state .

[t5_monkey]

Originally Posted by Nocomplaints1977

T5Monkey is running a petrol which is a different ballgame to the torque created by a diesel. Diesel torque is created at a far higher amount lower in the rev range which on each cylinder cycle creates a higher point loading on the clutch and DMF.

The clutch will begin to slip beyond a torque threshold, my friend has an brand new 850R clutch in his 850 T5 which is highly modded running an 19T at over 380hp (dynoed) and has had to cap the torque peak by 50nM due to clutch slip so he doesn't kill the clutch, and if you continue to let it slip it will kill the friction material and fail completely.

torque is just twist... the rpm isn't that relevant and the firing 'loading' should be absorbed by the DMF.

peak torque in mine is 2500rpm with 300lb-ft at 2000rpm so not all that different from a Diesel.

Perhaps an S60R clutch would fit? not sure if the diesel is the same fitment.

Sachs or similar might do an upgraded clutch.

[outnumbered]

Originally Posted by t5_monkey

torque is just twist... the rpm isn't that relevant and the firing 'loading' should be absorbed by the DMF.

peak torque in mine is 2500rpm with 300lb-ft at 2000rpm so not all that different from a Diesel.

Perhaps an S60R clutch would fit? not sure if the diesel is the same fitment.

Sachs or similar might do an upgraded clutch.

this is a wind up right