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Old May 9th, 2010, 23:00   #11
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Steve knows alot of stuff, but I have to disagree on this.

I have listed the differences between GLE+GLTs, there are mostly no other differences. The OP was asking about 2.0L 360s not 340s (1.7s+1.4s). Electrics and sun roofs are nothing to do with GLE/GLTs they are relative to year and factory options. GLE's were fully equipped less sporting versions.

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Old May 10th, 2010, 18:50   #12
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Steve knows alot of stuff, but I have to disagree on this.

I have listed the differences between GLE+GLTs, there are mostly no other differences. The OP was asking about 2.0L 360s not 340s (1.7s+1.4s). Electrics and sun roofs are nothing to do with GLE/GLTs they are relative to year and factory options. GLE's were fully equipped less sporting versions.
So some GLTs might not have electric windows o_O?
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Old May 11th, 2010, 11:59   #13
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Some might but they'll be pre 1985 Mk2's which generally had less equipment.
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Some might but they'll be pre 1985 Mk2's which generally had less equipment.
Ahh right. Whats the best year for them then? Like after 85'?
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my 360glt is a 1988/89 and it did not come with electric mirrors till I took them off a J reg 340 gl 1.4 but came with electric windows.
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my 360glt is a 1988/89 and it did not come with electric mirrors till I took them off a J reg 340 gl 1.4 but came with electric windows.
Well that sucks lol
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GLE - Grand Luxe Executive
GLT - Grand Luxe Touring

Touring is sportier, Executive is more comfortable. For me, it's a real shame the GLT had the shorter diff, as it makes it a bit noisy at higher speeds. A GLE is far more relaxed to cruise in at autobahn speeds.

1986-88 (model year) GLEs and GLTs got electric windows.
1989 GLTs added electric mirrors. I presume the GLE would have got them too, except it was dropped for 1989.

Both were available with/without a sunroof...but most did have one.

I think (for the UK market) a GLEi was always a saloon.

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GLE - Grand Luxe Executive
GLT - Grand Luxe Touring

Touring is sportier, Executive is more comfortable. For me, it's a real shame the GLT had the shorter diff, as it makes it a bit noisy at higher speeds. A GLE is far more relaxed to cruise in at autobahn speeds.

1986-88 (model year) GLEs and GLTs got electric windows.
1989 GLTs added electric mirrors. I presume the GLE would have got them too, except it was dropped for 1989.

Both were available with/without a sunroof...but most did have one.

I think (for the UK market) a GLEi was always a saloon.

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Thanks for the info!

Exactly how is the GLE more relaxed? better seats or something o_O?
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Nah, the seats and so on are all pretty much the same. It was just that the engine is spinning more slowly...less noise. It's not really a problem at UK speeds, but if you're in Germany and want to do 90+ for any amount of time, an injection car with the shorter 3.64:1 diff gets a bit buzzy and harsh. I forget the exact numbers for the GLT now, but 100mph is almost exactly 4000rpm in a carb model, but nearly 5000 in an injection car.

It also hits the fuel economy (together the higher state of tune of the injection model). The carb engined cars (B200K...the older B19A may well be more thirsty) will do 40+ to the gallon at 70mph as long as the carb is healthy, whereas a GLT will be closer to 30, typically. The carb model is slower, but there's not much in it...the silver car (my 360, pre-modifications) is a carb model, and the black one is a GLT...

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I'm biased towards the carb cars, but I'd happily buy either. I'd buy whatever comes up in good condition...i.e. without much rust!

To be honest...if it's just a cheap runaround....if you're only going to do up to 70mph (they'll go faster....110+....but drink fuel) and aren't bothered about acceleration, I'd get a 1.4 (but make sure it's a 5-speed!). Better on fuel, cheaper to insure and tax...and usually cheaper to buy. 360s are more luxurious, but there's something about the sheer simplicity of a 1.4 which is very addictive. I only stopped using my 1.4 because the body got to be a real mess.

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Old May 14th, 2010, 10:23   #20
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I feel I have to chip in here as that's me in my old black GLT in that video

What Foggy doesn't mention is that I got severe wheelspin off the line due to them dampening the track and Foggy managed to get a clean get away. Despite this I still finished nearly a cars length ahead across the line....

IMO I would always go for the GLT... the GLE cam is too lame to be sporty and the long diff in the 360 GLE really exaggerates the mismatched gear ratios in the gearbox (biggggg hole between 2nd and 3rd). There's just no need for such a long diff in the UK where you can never sustain high motorway speeds, it only dampers your acceleration when you need to accelerate in 5th. Lets be honest anyway, the noise at speed isn't attributed to engine noise intrusion, it's all from the windnoise in the Golde sunroof equipped cars!

I do however totally agree about the 1.4, a late 1.4 for a runaround has to be the best bet - you're also more likely to find one in good condition as there are so many more of them. Going in a 340 1.4 vs a 360 GLE IMO didn't feel as different as it ought to on paper (probably only down to the diff ratios!), whereas the performance increase for the GLT seemed noticable.

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