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Laird Scooby · Oct 18th, 2018, 19:27

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Originally Posted by TomSaintJames

Hi all, would 16.5 amp 1mm cable suffice for the rear lights? This is what I've bought for the rewiring based on the fact that the fuse for the fog lights is 15 amp.

The 7 core flexible cabling that I've bought is of significantly smaller diameyer than what is on the car, it may be that the insulation is thinner but I haven't yet compared them side by side.

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Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

Why not use the 7-core for the hinge area Tom? Would make life much easier!

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Originally Posted by TomSaintJames

So dave, you don't recommend using the 7-core 16.5amp rated flex wire for the hinge area wiring? (I bought the same stuff that Stephen linked to on ebay). I was hoping to run the whole length of the new cable from just inside the roof to the clusters, as a smaller diameter duct/cable etc will be a lot easier to accomodate in the very restricted space around the hinge,

That wasn't what i said Tom ^^^^^

Stephen Edwin · Oct 18th, 2018, 19:32

Tom. I'm a little puzzled why fixing that cluster earth hasn't fixed at least some of the problem, as the other cluster works OK. There is something else to find I think.

Ah yes. It could simply be, that cluster has problems with the earth and also with supply wires. As we know, one needs a circuit for electricity. So fixing that earth is part of the circuit.

For a full job you are about to fix the supply wires. And you will I'm sure secure the body to tailgate earth.

TomSaintJames · Oct 18th, 2018, 19:40

As a side note, there is no earth that I have found for the rear lights at the rear of the car - they must earth at the front end somewhere.

Likewise with the bumper lights, the two earth wires junctioned on the pastic diode part and a third wire haeded to the front end/dash area for it's supposed earth. A new earth at the back end fixed the bumper lights, so i'm hoping the same will occur with the proper lights. Using fiberglass for the bootlid saved weight i'm sure, but it isn't great for earthing purposes!

I did do some work at the weekend, but have no current way to upload photo's from a camera, its special cable has mogged off somewhere! New one on order...

I have also jst realised how expensive Halfords is in comparison to the internet or even screwfix (which is actually closer to me than anywhere else), I shall be taking all the unused halfords bits back and getting more bits for less money at screwfix! They will probably be better quality too.

Laird Scooby · Oct 18th, 2018, 19:43

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Originally Posted by Stephen Edwin

And you will I'm sure secure the body to tailgate earth.

From what i've seen of Toms photos, the tailgate is fibreglass.

Laird Scooby · Oct 18th, 2018, 19:46

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Originally Posted by TomSaintJames

I have also jst realised how expensive Halfords is in comparison to the internet or even screwfix (which is actually closer to me than anywhere else), I shall be taking all the unused halfords bits back and getting more bits for less money at screwfix! They will probably be better quality too.

I've been trying to tell you that for ages Tom!

TomSaintJames · Oct 18th, 2018, 19:57

Just seen you replies Dave and Steve after i'd posted.

Great, glad using the 7-core is ok for the hinge area, apologies Dave, i read your earlier posts on my phone at work and it was less than ideal conditions for reading!

Each light cluster has it's own seperate feed from what I can see, apart from some interconnection via the numberplate lights, they are seperately wired.

So the plan is to use the new 7-core wire, connected to an unbent/uncompressed area of original feed wiring inside the car each side, to replace the wiring to each rear light cluster seperately. I toyed with both wires going through one side of the tailgate and the drivers side feed going across, just above the numberplate lights, but the hinge area is so tight on space that I'm not sure two cables will fit without one getting caught by the bootlid/hinge each time the boot is opened.

I will also install a new earth from the mountiung bolt of each light cluster where the PCB ring connector also resides, routed up the feed wires, and into the spare wheel well to join the earth for the bumper lights.

Hopefully this solves things! And i'm hoping really quite hard!

Stephen Edwin · Oct 18th, 2018, 20:04

Fibreglass !!!!!!!

Well then, that alters things. I don't know where the earth crimp goes to. I haven't gone back to look. But. It remains. The earth needs to be sound to the car body to complete a circuit the battery &c. Simples.

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TomSaintJames · Oct 18th, 2018, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Stephen Edwin

Fibreglass !!!!!!!

Indeed! The devils work!

Laird Scooby · Oct 18th, 2018, 21:18

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Originally Posted by TomSaintJames

Indeed! The devils work!

Nothing wrong with fibreglass - 10 million Reliant owners can't be wrong! Just ask Princess Anne, she got nicked for speeding in one! Oh yeah, and countless boat owners too!

It's a very valid material and was also used for the tailgates on some Jeep Cherokees.

I'd go for the American philosophy - there ain't no replacement for displacement and drop in a 1UZ-FE aka 4.0 V8 from the early Lexus LS400 models.

You'd have to customise the paintwork with ghost-flames as it would be capable of going like a bat out of hell!

TomSaintJames · Oct 19th, 2018, 09:40

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Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

I'd go for the American philosophy - there ain't no replacement for displacement and drop in a 1UZ-FE aka 4.0 V8 from the early Lexus LS400 models.

Oh dear, i'm not sure I should have been told about that...

Oct 18th, 2018, 19:40	#133
TomSaintJames Senior Member Last Online: Apr 22nd, 2024 12:26 Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Yeovil	As a side note, there is no earth that I have found for the rear lights at the rear of the car - they must earth at the front end somewhere. Likewise with the bumper lights, the two earth wires junctioned on the pastic diode part and a third wire haeded to the front end/dash area for it's supposed earth. A new earth at the back end fixed the bumper lights, so i'm hoping the same will occur with the proper lights. Using fiberglass for the bootlid saved weight i'm sure, but it isn't great for earthing purposes! I did do some work at the weekend, but have no current way to upload photo's from a camera, its special cable has mogged off somewhere! New one on order... I have also jst realised how expensive Halfords is in comparison to the internet or even screwfix (which is actually closer to me than anywhere else), I shall be taking all the unused halfords bits back and getting more bits for less money at screwfix! They will probably be better quality too. __________________ Mes voitures: 1985 Citroen BX 1.9 GT 1988 Volvo 740 GL Hearse 1991 Saab 900i 2.0 16v Convertible 2007 Lexus RX 400h SE

Oct 18th, 2018, 19:57	#136
TomSaintJames Senior Member Last Online: Apr 22nd, 2024 12:26 Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Yeovil	Just seen you replies Dave and Steve after i'd posted. Great, glad using the 7-core is ok for the hinge area, apologies Dave, i read your earlier posts on my phone at work and it was less than ideal conditions for reading! Each light cluster has it's own seperate feed from what I can see, apart from some interconnection via the numberplate lights, they are seperately wired. So the plan is to use the new 7-core wire, connected to an unbent/uncompressed area of original feed wiring inside the car each side, to replace the wiring to each rear light cluster seperately. I toyed with both wires going through one side of the tailgate and the drivers side feed going across, just above the numberplate lights, but the hinge area is so tight on space that I'm not sure two cables will fit without one getting caught by the bootlid/hinge each time the boot is opened. I will also install a new earth from the mountiung bolt of each light cluster where the PCB ring connector also resides, routed up the feed wires, and into the spare wheel well to join the earth for the bumper lights. Hopefully this solves things! And i'm hoping really quite hard! __________________ Mes voitures: 1985 Citroen BX 1.9 GT 1988 Volvo 740 GL Hearse 1991 Saab 900i 2.0 16v Convertible 2007 Lexus RX 400h SE Last edited by TomSaintJames; Oct 18th, 2018 at 20:04.

Oct 18th, 2018, 19:32	#132
Stephen Edwin Premier Member Last Online: Oct 26th, 2023 20:42 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Thurrock	Tom. I'm a little puzzled why fixing that cluster earth hasn't fixed at least some of the problem, as the other cluster works OK. There is something else to find I think. Ah yes. It could simply be, that cluster has problems with the earth and also with supply wires. As we know, one needs a circuit for electricity. So fixing that earth is part of the circuit. For a full job you are about to fix the supply wires. And you will I'm sure secure the body to tailgate earth.

Oct 18th, 2018, 20:04	#137
Stephen Edwin Premier Member Last Online: Oct 26th, 2023 20:42 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Thurrock	Fibreglass !!!!!!! Well then, that alters things. I don't know where the earth crimp goes to. I haven't gone back to look. But. It remains. The earth needs to be sound to the car body to complete a circuit the battery &c. Simples. .

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