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Mar 23rd, 2016, 00:14 | #971 | |
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Mar 23rd, 2016, 05:51 | #972 | |
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To say this is a UK problem is just blame shifting, "it's our climate" "qaulity of fuel" "the way you British drive" The biggest problem is getting Volvo to admit anything, they have kept very quiet and all we hear is different stories from our dealers and their technicians who are NOT Volvo! A statement from Volvo would be nice but that's like getting blood from a stone. |
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Mar 23rd, 2016, 11:25 | #974 |
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Call me thick, and touch wood etc, but why are some cars affected and others not?
Are all cars going to have this problem at some point in time, maybe out of warranty and Volvo won't be responsible? I was going to keep this car for a long time, but now, will have to rethink as I don't want expensive repairs bills just outside of warranty. Also what is the common denominator between cars that are and cars that are not affected, there must be something somewhere and shouldn't Volvo be looking into that too, to see if there are pertaining factors? I have just over 10000 miles on the clock and have started wondering if the dreaded turtle is getting ready to make his grand entrance!
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Mar 23rd, 2016, 12:10 | #975 | |
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It's hard to say. The very few owners on here that have NOT had EGR problems tend to do a lot of motorway miles, but even then, some high-milers have had their EGR / cooler replaced. Others use premium diesel exclusively, and still have had problems. So it can't easily be blamed on fuel quality (and standard UK diesel IS higher quality than in other European countries anyway. My personal opinion based on all the evidence in this thread and elsewhere is this: Volvo's design of the EGR cooler was inadequate, and they failed to test it properly in real-world driving conditions (cold starts, short journeys etc). Otherwise they would not have had to make so many revisions to the parts over the past 18 months. In my view, Volvo is EXTREMELY lucky that only a small percentage of cars go into limp mode and become undriveable with this fault. As it is, it's costing them a fortune in warranty repairs: but if more cars were stranded because of the fault, it would be catastrophic for the company's finances. I've seen some owners say on here that Volvo UK has told them that EGR-related faults will be fixed free even outside the 3 year warranty. We'll see if the company honours this. |
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Mar 23rd, 2016, 12:28 | #976 | |
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The fact that Rooster indicates the my7 engines engines will incorporate ad blue does seem to lead to their thinking on EGR was a little flawed at best or inappropriate at worst. Squirting 'stuff' into the exhaust system chamber post-combustion to reduce NOx does on the face of it seem a little easier to understand than the complex and temperamental working of the EGR. Maybe a case of less being more - especially if a low(er)-tech approach does it better!
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Mar 23rd, 2016, 12:29 | #977 |
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What does it take for a formal 'recall' notice to be issued ? If Volvo don't issue a 'free EGR fix' statement, irrespective of time, this must be the way to go. I'm sure they will do everything they can to avoid a blanket recall.
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Mar 23rd, 2016, 13:56 | #979 | |
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This is why I believe Volvo has been VERY lucky that more cars aren't going into limp mode. Because limp mode only happens to a small percentage of affected cars, from Volvo's perspective it's not a big enough issue to warrant a full recall. So they are muddling through by fixing cars on the hoof. It's still costing them a fortune, but probably less than it would if a full recall was needed. Another 6 months of proper testing could have flushed this out, I don't really understand why they were so keen to rush out the VEA engine. Everyone would have been quite happy with the old 5-cylinder engines for another year. |
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Alternatively, it's probably better they released the engine when they did as it bought them another year of real world testing. 2020 is not far away and the range average has to be down to 95g/km by then.
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