D5 Long cranking after period of no use - Page 4

richieski · Sep 14th, 2022, 18:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Auldgit

Just been reading through this thread, first time. My XC has had a similar problem for a couple of years. Sometimes it really grinds and only just starts when it's cold, other times it's only a quick couple of turns and she's away. Problem exacerbated by standing. I've been blaming parasitic battery drain but I can't find any firm evidence of it. Sounds as if I need to check the earth leads for sure to eliminate them from the picture. Interesting.

I have removed, inspected and cleaned all earth and + connections in relation to the starter. No change

richieski · Sep 14th, 2022, 18:03

Does anyone know if a camshaft / crankcase sensor cause slow cranking?
Can fuel starvation cause slow cranking?
Anyone had a blocked CAT? what are the symptoms?

richieski · Sep 20th, 2022, 21:40

UPDATE

Have found slight leak i think in mounts, mityvac playing up so plugged supply to solenoid.
Also cleaned out egr.
also cleaned up the negative from the battery to the bodywork in the engine bay. Didn't know it was there until i saw it while working on the egr. Never heard this mentioned in other chats.
Seems better so far but using it daily so hard to tell yet but feels like it's firing up better.

richieski · Oct 13th, 2022, 18:08

[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/4VDZmES79ag[/YOUTUBE]

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Right, car still pants at starting after unused for 2 days or more.
Have taken it to 2 garages and they said nothing wrong with it.
Checked all electrical alternator load test etc the whole lot.

I have attached a screen shot and video.

Would appreciate any feedback, maybe i'm missing something or is there more data i can add.

I'm not giving up,, we will find the solution my friends. thank you

Auldgit · Oct 14th, 2022, 10:31

Well all I can report is that mine is still doing the same thing, except it seems to be more intermittent than yours. I take it you've checked the parasitic drain?

richieski · Oct 14th, 2022, 16:12

Parasitic drain tested by me and a indy.

richmac · Oct 15th, 2022, 18:17

Hi,

Interest rather than direct knowledge of this so one for the D5 guys to comment on but weren't the early D5s slightly infamous for injector issues that manifested themselves like this? Do a quick search.

BR.

richieski · Oct 15th, 2022, 21:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by richmac

Hi,

Interest rather than direct knowledge of this so one for the D5 guys to comment on but weren't the early D5s slightly infamous for injector issues that manifested themselves like this? Do a quick search.

BR.

Thanks, mine is 2005 so i think it should have skipped the major issues

richieski · Oct 18th, 2022, 19:13

Plugged in Vida, battery registered 12.1 V, this sounds low to me.
What do you think?

Did an injector test.
All good apart from Cyl4 overfuelling +3.3 on 1st test
Then tested again about 6 times.
2nd test was a +2.8
Each time the value dropped and ended at last test +1.8

richieski · Jan 1st, 2023, 17:20

Ok its been a while.
I bought a new battery YUASA best one i could get and it seems to sorted it.
So the Bosch S5 was probably faulty from the start
All the tests etc did not pick it up.
I now have a faulty injector so hopefully it will start on the button soon.
(does sometimes take a few turns to fire but now it's quick whereas the bosch was slow)

Oct 13th, 2022, 18:08	#34
richieski Member Last Online: Dec 27th, 2023 23:38 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Swindon	[YOUTUBE]https://youtu.be/4VDZmES79ag[/YOUTUBE] 20221001_113004.jpg Right, car still pants at starting after unused for 2 days or more. Have taken it to 2 garages and they said nothing wrong with it. Checked all electrical alternator load test etc the whole lot. I have attached a screen shot and video. Would appreciate any feedback, maybe i'm missing something or is there more data i can add. I'm not giving up,, we will find the solution my friends. thank you Last edited by richieski; Oct 13th, 2022 at 18:17.

Sep 14th, 2022, 18:03	#32
richieski Member Last Online: Dec 27th, 2023 23:38 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Swindon	Does anyone know if a camshaft / crankcase sensor cause slow cranking? Can fuel starvation cause slow cranking? Anyone had a blocked CAT? what are the symptoms?

Sep 20th, 2022, 21:40	#33
richieski Member Last Online: Dec 27th, 2023 23:38 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Swindon	UPDATE Have found slight leak i think in mounts, mityvac playing up so plugged supply to solenoid. Also cleaned out egr. also cleaned up the negative from the battery to the bodywork in the engine bay. Didn't know it was there until i saw it while working on the egr. Never heard this mentioned in other chats. Seems better so far but using it daily so hard to tell yet but feels like it's firing up better.

Oct 14th, 2022, 10:31	#35
Auldgit Master Member Last Online: Mar 12th, 2024 15:11 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chester	Well all I can report is that mine is still doing the same thing, except it seems to be more intermittent than yours. I take it you've checked the parasitic drain?

Oct 14th, 2022, 16:12	#36
richieski Member Last Online: Dec 27th, 2023 23:38 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Swindon	Parasitic drain tested by me and a indy.

Oct 15th, 2022, 18:17	#37
richmac Member Last Online: Apr 16th, 2024 14:14 Join Date: Sep 2021 Location: Bath	Hi, Interest rather than direct knowledge of this so one for the D5 guys to comment on but weren't the early D5s slightly infamous for injector issues that manifested themselves like this? Do a quick search. BR.

Oct 18th, 2022, 19:13	#39
richieski Member Last Online: Dec 27th, 2023 23:38 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Swindon	Plugged in Vida, battery registered 12.1 V, this sounds low to me. What do you think? Did an injector test. All good apart from Cyl4 overfuelling +3.3 on 1st test Then tested again about 6 times. 2nd test was a +2.8 Each time the value dropped and ended at last test +1.8

Jan 1st, 2023, 17:20	#40
richieski Member Last Online: Dec 27th, 2023 23:38 Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Swindon	Ok its been a while. I bought a new battery YUASA best one i could get and it seems to sorted it. So the Bosch S5 was probably faulty from the start All the tests etc did not pick it up. I now have a faulty injector so hopefully it will start on the button soon. (does sometimes take a few turns to fire but now it's quick whereas the bosch was slow)

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