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Jul 2nd, 2018, 18:17 | #1 |
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Elite Re-Map?
My XC70 is in for its annual service tomorrow, and I noticed in the reminder blurb sent a couple of weeks ago, that my indy is now an agent for Elite re-maps. Looking at their site, Stage One for a 2010 XC70 (205) takes the 205bhp to 240 with a significant increase in torque. I'm tempted - but does anyone have experience of this company? No mention of cost - I might ask tomorrow.
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Jul 3rd, 2018, 08:25 | #2 |
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Although not specific to Elite, I asked the question on remapping my V70.
Pretty much came back anti independent remapping and polestar remap was the way to go. Reasoning and thread here - https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=282658 |
Jul 3rd, 2018, 11:56 | #3 |
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A Polestar remap seems terribly expensive for the benefit gained... maybe worth considering for an auto though, seeing as how the gearbox software is apparently also modified. I've never heard of a remap being overwritten by a subsequent dealer update, at least in Honda diesels with a Bosch EDC16 ECU.
I come from a Honda diesel community, where remapping is commonplace. Celtic are generally favoured over Elite, mostly because their maps featured torque limitation in lower gears to aid traction and protect the clutch... diesel remapping can make startling torque gains at low RPM, which does then overload the clamping ability of the clutch pressure plate. Also Elite maps illegally keep the EGR valve closed, which causes NOx emissions to soar and may give future concerns if/when the MoT checks for NOx emissions. Celtic maps have an option to include EGR or not. Whatever you go for, ask to see predicted dyno graphs applicable to your model car. The torque delivery needs to be smooth and extended, not merely a giant spike at low RPM! |
Jul 3rd, 2018, 16:29 | #4 |
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The major difference is that Volvo ECUs are encrypted.
No third-party remapper can remap the twin-turbo D5, unless they remove the ECU, open the casing, connect onto the pins of the EEPROM and directly write the map in. Read these threads: https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showt...ighlight=remap https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showt...ighlight=remap Remember that when something like that happens, the remapper will not help you. Either they already have your money, or they've refunded you your money but will not help with the repair cost. Why would you risk a vehicle that is currently worth around £8k for the sake of saving £300 on the remap? That's less than the cost of a set of tyres As for "minimal gains" - the polestar map on the 205 takes it up to 225bhp, and keeps it JUST within the lowest insurance increase (insurers I've seen listing the modifications tend to have different remap brackets, the cheapest one being 0-10% bhp increase). As for VEA cars, it looks like they're just offering up closer to the engine's maximum capability as standard. One of the best "value" polestar options was on the XC60/XC70 D4 AWD - although only 163bhp, the engine was physically actually the same twin-turbo D5 as the D5 205/215. Polestar took the 205/215 up to 225/230 respectively, and unlocked the D4 to a full D5 215. |
Jul 3rd, 2018, 17:12 | #5 | |
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Remappers are usually able to remove their map and reload the original one, should problems occur. |
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Jul 4th, 2018, 08:25 | #6 |
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To be frank, regardless of what map I would put on my car, insurance company is not someone I would tell.
As they will never know the car has been remapped unless they no download the map on your ECU to check or you tell them. In the event of a total loss, if they actually do decide to come out and check, it is only a visual inspection of the vehicle that is carried out. Where that differs is the tuning boxes, with supplement wires, a visual inspection would find it |
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