Vehicle Safety/Recall Notification

[big square car]

Yes Iain, it would be very dull but even if you disagree with the other guy you should respect him and his right to hold his opinion

[marsdalebear]

I sincerely hope that the criticism was not aimed at me.
I was taking part in a discussion when a gratuitous sarcastic post was aimed at me by someone who obviously had not read the whole thread. I took a stance but he would not let it rest.
I have only recently joined the community and never expected such a lack of respect from longstanding members, all of whom, with the one exception, have been helpful and polite.
If indeed they were aimed at me the this is probably not the place for me.

[big square car]

Why don't we just get back discussing the recall and associated issues as per thread title.

[deepsix]

Having had the letter, I was happy to wait for a fix to be defined.

I got a phone call from my dealer a couple of weeks ago whilst on holiday in Australia and arranged for the recall to be done on my MY17 D5 V90cc the day after my return, which was yesterday.
Courtesy car supplied (nice XC40 R Design) and when I got home and checked the invoice I saw that they changed the split power pulse hose which they noticed. 2nd time this has been changed and this time I hadn't noticed it had failed. Embarrassing really as I'm obviously not driving it hard enough to spot.
I also got them to change the batteries in my Key fob which I had been having trouble doing and didn't want to break it. Only charged £6 for the batteries.
Can't fault Volvo, Poole; apart from it's a pain to get to from Winchester with the traffic.
Quite a few Volvos in Aus but I didn't see any V90's at all. Being a Hornitologist I absolutely loved the birds there.

[Clan]

Originally Posted by deepsix

Having had the letter, I was happy to wait for a fix to be defined.

I got a phone call from my dealer a couple of weeks ago whilst on holiday in Australia and arranged for the recall to be done on my MY17 D5 V90cc the day after my return, which was yesterday.
Courtesy car supplied (nice XC40 R Design) and when I got home and checked the invoice I saw that they changed the split power pulse hose which they noticed. 2nd time this has been changed and this time I hadn't noticed it had failed. Embarrassing really as I'm obviously not driving it hard enough to spot.
I also got them to change the batteries in my Key fob which I had been having trouble doing and didn't want to break it. Only charged £6 for the batteries.
Can't fault Volvo, Poole; apart from it's a pain to get to from Winchester with the traffic.
Quite a few Volvos in Aus but I didn't see any V90's at all. Being a Hornitologist I absolutely loved the birds there.

Powerpulse is being dropped in a few months ... with the new mild hybrids the electric motor does the job a lot better.

[ayrix]

Hi guys, first of all, sorry for my english since I'm a user from germany.

I just would like to describe the situation I am in right now.

Two weeks ago I also went to the Volvo dealer to perform the recall R29950 in order to change the ECM Software which should reduce the soot coming from the EGR to not make carbon deposit build on the intake valves. In this case the intake valves would not close properly and the combusted mixture could be blown back to the intake manifold which could melt or deform the intake manifold.

Once the service was done and the new software was flashed, I took my car and went back home. Next time I sat in the car, the engine light turned on and the injection in the 2nd cylinder was cut. Engine was not running round anymore.

So I went back to the car dealer and he checked the engine. After a while he came back and told me that they got to remove the cylinder head to clean the intake valves and and the seats since they are leaking.
So I asked him how he does know that they are leaking after 10min checking the engine without doing a compression or leak down check. Then he told me that they did a electrical compression test to check if the intake valves are leaking. I asked him if he knows how that works because I only know about compression checks which can tell you that there is compression issue in generall without telling you if the intake valve, exhaust valve, glow plugs, injectors or the pistons are leaking.
His answer was that he also doesn't know how that works.

I took my keys and went to another car dealer to to seek a second oppinion.
The other car dealer made the same diagnostic and told me that this is actually Volvo's fault since the original (previous) ECM-Software was producing too much soot which built carbon deposits on your intake valves why I have a leak on that cylinders now.
He told me that the new software should avoid the carbon deposit creation but I was too late already.

After I asked why the older software did not recognize that, he told me that in the new ECM software it's implemented a new diagnostic function what makes possible to detect leakage in the intake valves.

Now I contacted Volvo Costumer service and waiting for an answer how we will proceed now. The car has only 30.000km and has already this issue - unfortunately no warranty anymore but let's see what Volvo will say.

What do you think guys? Who should pay the repair? does anyone has similar issues?

[Quacker]

Originally Posted by ayrix

Hi guys, first of all, sorry for my english since I'm a user from germany.

I just would like to describe the situation I am in right now.

Two weeks ago I also went to the Volvo dealer to perform the recall R29950 in order to change the ECM Software which should reduce the soot coming from the EGR to not make carbon deposit build on the intake valves. In this case the intake valves would not close properly and the combusted mixture could be blown back to the intake manifold which could melt or deform the intake manifold.

Once the service was done and the new software was flashed, I took my car and went back home. Next time I sat in the car, the engine light turned on and the injection in the 2nd cylinder was cut. Engine was not running round anymore.

So I went back to the car dealer and he checked the engine. After a while he came back and told me that they got to remove the cylinder head to clean the intake valves and and the seats since they are leaking.
So I asked him how he does know that they are leaking after 10min checking the engine without doing a compression or leak down check. Then he told me that they did a electrical compression test to check if the intake valves are leaking. I asked him if he knows how that works because I only know about compression checks which can tell you that there is compression issue in generall without telling you if the intake valve, exhaust valve, glow plugs, injectors or the pistons are leaking.
His answer was that he also doesn't know how that works.

I took my keys and went to another car dealer to to seek a second oppinion.
The other car dealer made the same diagnostic and told me that this is actually Volvo's fault since the original (previous) ECM-Software was producing too much soot which built carbon deposits on your intake valves why I have a leak on that cylinders now.
He told me that the new software should avoid the carbon deposit creation but I was too late already.

After I asked why the older software did not recognize that, he told me that in the new ECM software it's implemented a new diagnostic function what makes possible to detect leakage in the intake valves.

Now I contacted Volvo Costumer service and waiting for an answer how we will proceed now. The car has only 30.000km and has already this issue - unfortunately no warranty anymore but let's see what Volvo will say.

What do you think guys? Who should pay the repair? does anyone has similar issues?

Is this on one of the current generation of cars? With only 30,000kms maybe it is. Maybe you drive very short distances and mainly at slow speeds? This would not be a suitable driving style for modern diesels. But I speculate…..

[ayrix]

Originally Posted by Quacker

Is this on one of the current generation of cars? With only 30,000kms maybe it is. Maybe you drive very short distances and mainly at slow speeds? This would not be a suitable driving style for modern diesels. But I speculate…..

Maybe the pre owner was driving short distances which could explain the situation as you say but even then after 30.000km there shouldn’t be a carbon deposit issue with intake valves. The main issue is the factory-set ECU Software which was probably Recirculating a lot of exhaust back into the engine.

What do you think?

[Fimac]

What happened with your claim Ayrix?
Was it resolved?

[Mr Mac]

Does anyone actually know what the fix is? (software mod)? If so & presuming its software, what has changed? Are there any detrimental side effects? loss of driveability / higher fuel consumption etc? Mines a 2018 D5 power pulse V90 Inscription pro Xenium plus extra toys with 8k miles on the clock