Engine: D5: - Broken cambelt

pyroloxley · Jan 30th, 2015, 23:18

Hi all. Been a member for several yrs but never posted - only read with interest.
I have a v70 d5 on a 52 plate with 135k on it. Cambelt changed at around 85 - 90k just after I purchased 8 yrs ago. Cambelt let go last week - all pulleys tensioners etc seem in good condition, not seized loose or wobbly and free turning, but it was just a cheap belt from local motor factors (bought in a rush).
Broke most of camshaft bearing caps and two hydraulic cavities. So need to get replacement head or engine. This is obviously the 163bhp motor, question is will a bare engine 185 motor fit and run with all the 163 auxiliaries, if so any advantage. Any preferences with just changing head or bare motor, bare motors appear cheaper than heads on flyby, but how do you know there 'good' before all the work of changing. Alternative is to weigh in perhaps selling fairly recent turbo, new tyres and battery and fuel pump + injectors first.
Thanks in anticipation of any replies / tips

DieselDoNicely · Jan 31st, 2015, 08:15

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Originally Posted by pyroloxley

Hi all. Been a member for several yrs but never posted - only read with interest.
I have a v70 d5 on a 52 plate with 135k on it. Cambelt changed at around 85 - 90k just after I purchased 8 yrs ago. Cambelt let go last week - all pulleys tensioners etc seem in good condition, not seized loose or wobbly and free turning, but it was just a cheap belt from local motor factors (bought in a rush).
Broke most of camshaft bearing caps and two hydraulic cavities. So need to get replacement head or engine. This is obviously the 163bhp motor, question is will a bare engine 185 motor fit and run with all the 163 auxiliaries, if so any advantage. Any preferences with just changing head or bare motor, bare motors appear cheaper than heads on flyby, but how do you know there 'good' before all the work of changing. Alternative is to weigh in perhaps selling fairly recent turbo, new tyres and battery and fuel pump + injectors first.
Thanks in anticipation of any replies / tips

Unless you can do the work yourself scrap the car, it happened to me. Probably the cam belt tensioner went not the belt, am I right? Its important that all the pulleys are replaced, oh and dont let it go to 90K.

If you do let me know how much you want for the turbo, oh and where it came from.

GrahamBrown1 · Jan 31st, 2015, 16:26

In short I don't belive it will fit/ work, or it will be a right chew on and more hassle than its worth. Main reason been the 185 is Euro 4 and has a different cylinder head with swirl valves. These are controled via an electric motor and the cars ecm. I think the turbo is also different as are the injectors. You can only replace it with an other euro 3 engine. Even if the 185 engine was compatible the extra hp is in the software as there is also 163 hp euro 4 so no advantage to fitting the 185

rob27 · Jan 31st, 2015, 23:44

Might be worth looking for a whole car as spares or repair on eBay. Seen quite a few with knackered auto boxes being punted on for not a lot of money. Probably less than you'd pay for an engine from an online breaker. Get the head swapped over and break the rest of the car and you could be about even if you've got the time and space to strip and sell the rest of the parts from the donor car.

pyroloxley · Feb 1st, 2015, 19:45

Thanks to all for info, currently looking for spares or repair especially with kaput auto boxes. At moment all seem to be far side of country, have now purchased a Saab as a temp measure and just looking /waiting for suitable donna to appear. But now know for sure it's not worth looking at 185 motors, although would probably have blanked off EGR and removed swirl valves as matter of course, and don't want anything to do with DPF.
Any thoughts as to pros & cons as to changing just the head or complete motor.
Thanks again for all replies.

D5meister · Feb 1st, 2015, 23:42

lots of sympathy for your motor.

Hate to see bad luck when people maintain their cars and suffer catastrophic expensive fails.

If I see any good motors I will let you know.

try lakes autos near A1 between st neots and bedford

Jan 30th, 2015, 23:18	#1
pyroloxley Dinosaur Last Online: Feb 4th, 2024 02:39 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: pontypool	Broken cambelt Hi all. Been a member for several yrs but never posted - only read with interest. I have a v70 d5 on a 52 plate with 135k on it. Cambelt changed at around 85 - 90k just after I purchased 8 yrs ago. Cambelt let go last week - all pulleys tensioners etc seem in good condition, not seized loose or wobbly and free turning, but it was just a cheap belt from local motor factors (bought in a rush). Broke most of camshaft bearing caps and two hydraulic cavities. So need to get replacement head or engine. This is obviously the 163bhp motor, question is will a bare engine 185 motor fit and run with all the 163 auxiliaries, if so any advantage. Any preferences with just changing head or bare motor, bare motors appear cheaper than heads on flyby, but how do you know there 'good' before all the work of changing. Alternative is to weigh in perhaps selling fairly recent turbo, new tyres and battery and fuel pump + injectors first. Thanks in anticipation of any replies / tips

Jan 31st, 2015, 16:26	#3
GrahamBrown1 VOC Member Last Online: Yesterday 19:51 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire	In short I don't belive it will fit/ work, or it will be a right chew on and more hassle than its worth. Main reason been the 185 is Euro 4 and has a different cylinder head with swirl valves. These are controled via an electric motor and the cars ecm. I think the turbo is also different as are the injectors. You can only replace it with an other euro 3 engine. Even if the 185 engine was compatible the extra hp is in the software as there is also 163 hp euro 4 so no advantage to fitting the 185 __________________ Previous -03 S40, 04 V70 D5 SE, 04 V70 D5 Sport, 05 V50, 07 S60 D5, 09 V70 D5 R design, 12 XC60 DrivE, 15 V60 VEA Oil Burner Current- 05 XC90 D5 Executive, 12 XC70 D4 AWD Se Lux, 14 S80 D3 Se Lux Last edited by GrahamBrown1; Jan 31st, 2015 at 16:28.

Jan 31st, 2015, 23:44	#4
rob27 2003 S60 D5 128000 Miles Last Online: Apr 16th, 2016 10:36 Join Date: May 2014 Location: wirral	Might be worth looking for a whole car as spares or repair on eBay. Seen quite a few with knackered auto boxes being punted on for not a lot of money. Probably less than you'd pay for an engine from an online breaker. Get the head swapped over and break the rest of the car and you could be about even if you've got the time and space to strip and sell the rest of the parts from the donor car. __________________ 2003 S60 D5 128000 Miles Last edited by rob27; Jan 31st, 2015 at 23:46.

Feb 1st, 2015, 19:45	#5
pyroloxley Dinosaur Last Online: Feb 4th, 2024 02:39 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: pontypool	Broken cambelt Thanks to all for info, currently looking for spares or repair especially with kaput auto boxes. At moment all seem to be far side of country, have now purchased a Saab as a temp measure and just looking /waiting for suitable donna to appear. But now know for sure it's not worth looking at 185 motors, although would probably have blanked off EGR and removed swirl valves as matter of course, and don't want anything to do with DPF. Any thoughts as to pros & cons as to changing just the head or complete motor. Thanks again for all replies. Last edited by pyroloxley; Feb 1st, 2015 at 19:47.

Feb 1st, 2015, 23:42	#6
D5meister Premier Member Last Online: Feb 10th, 2024 19:13 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Huntingdon	lots of sympathy for your motor. Hate to see bad luck when people maintain their cars and suffer catastrophic expensive fails. If I see any good motors I will let you know. try lakes autos near A1 between st neots and bedford

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