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Today's M4 fatal crash - Pentalver articulated lorry

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Old Oct 11th, 2018, 23:35   #1
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Default Today's M4 fatal crash - Pentalver articulated lorry

The Pentalver lorry that rear-ended the minibus today on the M4 was a DAF. Sadly the driver was not driving one of their Mercs which they bought in April, this accident may have been averted if he was.

https://www.logisticsmanager.com/pen...hampton-fleet/

Container specialist Pentalver has invested in 26 Mercedes-Benz tractor units for its operations at Southampton.

Shaun Allen, Pentalver’s chief operating officer, said: “We invited all of the major manufacturers to tender on the basis of a revised specification which focused particularly on safety features, as well as value for money. It soon became clear that Mercedes-Benz had a definite edge over the competition in terms of accident prevention technology, particularly with its emergency braking system, while our previous experience with the Actros meant we knew it was more than up to the job.”

Active Brake Assist 4 uses multi-mode radar to monitor moving and stationary objects in front of the vehicle, and sounds an audible warning when it senses potential for a collision. If the driver takes no action, it will apply staged braking followed by full braking power to prevent a crash, or dramatically reduce the effects of an impact.

The system incorporates pedestrian recognition. On detecting a moving pedestrian – even one stepping into the truck’s path from behind a parked car – it can apply partial braking while simultaneously activating acoustic and visual warnings, up to a speed of 50 km/h.
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Volvo trucks pretty good at stopping too.

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I remember 5th gear testing an e- class merc against a V40 and a small VW, and the e class hit the object in the braking test yet the Volvo still stopped even at a higher speed.
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Though more to the point, given the nature of the job and devastating consequences of an impact with an HGV, one wonders whether laws should force HGV operators into requiring this kind of braking technology on their vehicles.
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My heart missed a beat watching that Volvo truck brake

There have been so many instances recently of hgv's crashing into the rear end of other smaller vehicles and causing fatal accidents and at least twice now I have seen footage from inside the cabs of drivers playing with their phones and looking down, not watching the road, as their beast catches up with traffic and then they cannot stop in time

Yet again this time a mini bus was involved and so sad to hear its autistic children and their teachers, it was a school minibus. 2 dead, 3 injured
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I've just watched the footage of the crash on BBC News and the arctic has clearly rear-ended the mini bus at very high speed

It's about time we had technology in vehicles whereby phones were immobilised inside the vehicles and can be used for emergency calls only. They have this technology at some big music venues now so it must be possible

Maybe yet again we'll see harrowing footage from inside the cab of a driver using his phone whilst his truck bears down on vehicles ahead, like this most recent one, where the driver got just five years for killing someone:

https://news.sky.com/story/lorry-dri...years-11511138

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Initial reports indicate a blown front tire on the HGV so possible loss of control.
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Initial reports indicate a blown front tire on the HGV so possible loss of control.
That would make family's losses slightly easier to bear than if it's yet another truck driver on his phone looking down
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I have that forward detection system on one of the Mercedes trucks I drive and to be honest, I find it pretty annoying.
It's over sensitive in my opinion and the visual and audible warnings are pretty alarming (no pun intended) only for you to find that the danger is/was minimal to non existent.
From my experience of the system, you'd have to be a pretty terrible driver for the system to have a positive effect on the safety of your truck.
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My heart missed a beat watching that Volvo truck brake

There have been so many instances recently of drivers of hgv's crashing into the rear end of other smaller vehicles and causing fatal accidents and at least twice now I have seen footage from inside the cabs of drivers playing with their phones and looking down, not watching the road, as their beast catches up with traffic and then they cannot stop in time

Yet again this time a mini bus was involved and so sad to hear its autistic children and their teachers, it was a school minibus. 2 dead, 3 injured
It's the drivers (of either hgv or other vehicles) as you say. It's rare for the vehicle to be at fault.
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Even with the auto-braking, had the child not turned and run away he'dve been hit. The spot where the child turns ends up somewhere between the truck's front wheels.

Five years for a fatality which could so easily have been prevented had the driver been DOING HIS JOB instead of fiddling with his 'kin 'phone. Where's the justice?
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