Power Upgrade for D3

clemster · Apr 14th, 2010, 22:05

Hi Guys,

Well it is official.... I am getting a MY11 version of the car. I have just been told that delivery is due in Sep and although that is a fair time away I am prepared to wait, it should be worth it.

I am not too keen on the new engine as I have not been able to test drive it and have noticed that the fuel figs and Co2 are not too dissimilar to the outgoing model the only thing is that it is Euro V compliant. The engine is also down on power. I don't understand how Volvo can keep the 2.4 in the AWD and have better than last years MPG and Co2 and why they did not put that engine as the replacement to the D5 in the FWD version. Imagine 205 bhp in a FWD car . What a combination.

So the purpose of this is that my dealer is now looking at what performance upgrade is available for the D3. I believe that I read somewhere that Volvo do a performance upgrade but am not sure. Any advice would help.

If it is poss and I get any gen then I will post it.

Teejay1 · Apr 15th, 2010, 08:58

September why so late in the year?

The original XC60 had the same power and torque as the new D3 so it might not be required unless you need "s**t off a hot shovel" I guess.

I'm going for the D3 but I tested the Freelander which has a similar engine specs and the car is a similar weight. From that test drive I figured the engine would be fine as is. I'm not the type to bother with extra power now if we could get more MPG then I hear you.

ChrisE · Apr 15th, 2010, 09:47

The D3 also has a better power to weight ratio than the XC90. I doubt Volvo will be doing a power chip for an engine they don't even make yet.

clemster · Apr 15th, 2010, 13:00

Hi,

I hear what you were saying about power to weight. However, I dont see the need to have the engine replaced when it is clear that they managed to get the D5 engine (AWD) Euro V compliant as that was the reason for the change. If they are able to do that then surely it should have been quite simple to place that engine even if it is in a lower state of tune than the 205, say 190 and still be compliant.

When you reduce the cc you also reduce the pulling power, ie it is now 400nm as opposed to 420nm. When you are paying the kind of money that we are paying then I think it is prudent to look at all options to ensure that they have bettered the vehicle. When a new model is released then it should at least be better than it's predesessor. The price has gone up but the power, torque have gone down and MPG has not moved very much it is still in the same VED bracket so no improvement there (geartronic). If it turns out that a new chip will better last year's engine figures and this is able to be done via Volvo dealers then mayby they should have put the new engine in the car AND chipped it to give the same figures, that way people would not be worried that they have tried a 2.4 engine and now have ordered a vehicle with an engine that is unknown. Chipping is after all a software upgrade, the same that we have on our phones and computers. Any bikers out there will know what i mean by simply saying Power Commander.

ChrisE · Apr 16th, 2010, 16:43

The change of engine size might well have been marketing differentiation and the tax level changes that some european countries still, I believe, have at 2 litres.

Please note that the torque & power are lower; but so is the revs at which they happen. This is a good thing for a diesel but what happens in the real world is anydody's guess. We will have to wait & see.

Personally the changes mean that I would possibly buy a D3 manual but a D5 automatic.

Teejay1 · Apr 16th, 2010, 20:17

I've just done that today, D3 manual.

clemster · May 15th, 2010, 12:57

Still waiting for details from my dealer about the Polestar upgrades that Volvo officially now do.

Here is a link for the 2.4D engine that they tinkle with. Notice that even though the BHP and the Torque have improved, the MPG is the same, even the Co2 is. How can that not be better??

If they can do this for the 2.4 and that is at 163BHP then what would the D3 be????

Have a look and let me know what you think.

http://www.polestar.se/viewpage.asp?...6&edition=p_uk

Stuartwmcc · May 16th, 2010, 16:35

Anyone know how much it costs to get polestar upgrade and also does it impact your insurance? It sounds like an interesting upgrade re oomph without impacting fuel.....or are there other better / more cost effective options?

Daleman · May 16th, 2010, 21:26

These figures don’t read the same as the 2009 XC60 2.4 Geartronic I am looking at in the brochure with urban @30.4 extra urban@ 50.4 and combined @ 40.9 with a CO2 g/km of 183.

BHP is 175 and torque 420Nm

Those polestar figures must be for a fairly old early XC60 2.4 with a relatively dirty engine so they are incomparable with the newer cleaner 2.4 let alone the D3 .I think one can only make do with the D3 as standard until we see what the chip men can do with it.

turbo-tuner · Jun 29th, 2010, 15:20

OK, here are the first offerings from RICA for the D3 2.0 163 hp and the D3 2.4 163 hp models -

http://www.rica-uk.com/viewcar.aspx?vehicle=1960

http://www.rica-uk.com/viewcar.aspx?vehicle=1957

Note that in some markets the 2.0 variant may not be available for the XC60.

Apr 14th, 2010, 22:05	#1
clemster New Member Last Online: Sep 7th, 2010 23:13 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: salisbury	Power Upgrade for D3 Hi Guys, Well it is official.... I am getting a MY11 version of the car. I have just been told that delivery is due in Sep and although that is a fair time away I am prepared to wait, it should be worth it. I am not too keen on the new engine as I have not been able to test drive it and have noticed that the fuel figs and Co2 are not too dissimilar to the outgoing model the only thing is that it is Euro V compliant. The engine is also down on power. I don't understand how Volvo can keep the 2.4 in the AWD and have better than last years MPG and Co2 and why they did not put that engine as the replacement to the D5 in the FWD version. Imagine 205 bhp in a FWD car . What a combination. So the purpose of this is that my dealer is now looking at what performance upgrade is available for the D3. I believe that I read somewhere that Volvo do a performance upgrade but am not sure. Any advice would help. If it is poss and I get any gen then I will post it.

Jun 29th, 2010, 15:20	#10
turbo-tuner I've Been Banned Last Online: Nov 14th, 2010 22:16 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: West Midlands	RICA ECM Upgrades for XC60 D3 OK, here are the first offerings from RICA for the D3 2.0 163 hp and the D3 2.4 163 hp models - http://www.rica-uk.com/viewcar.aspx?vehicle=1960 http://www.rica-uk.com/viewcar.aspx?vehicle=1957 Note that in some markets the 2.0 variant may not be available for the XC60.

Apr 15th, 2010, 08:58	#2
Teejay1 Master Member Last Online: Jun 24th, 2023 21:53 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tyne and Wear	September why so late in the year? The original XC60 had the same power and torque as the new D3 so it might not be required unless you need "s**t off a hot shovel" I guess. I'm going for the D3 but I tested the Freelander which has a similar engine specs and the car is a similar weight. From that test drive I figured the engine would be fine as is. I'm not the type to bother with extra power now if we could get more MPG then I hear you.

Apr 15th, 2010, 09:47	#3
ChrisE Volvo Owner Since 1990 Last Online: Apr 3rd, 2024 13:27 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Norwich	The D3 also has a better power to weight ratio than the XC90. I doubt Volvo will be doing a power chip for an engine they don't even make yet.

Apr 15th, 2010, 13:00	#4
clemster New Member Last Online: Sep 7th, 2010 23:13 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: salisbury	Hi, I hear what you were saying about power to weight. However, I dont see the need to have the engine replaced when it is clear that they managed to get the D5 engine (AWD) Euro V compliant as that was the reason for the change. If they are able to do that then surely it should have been quite simple to place that engine even if it is in a lower state of tune than the 205, say 190 and still be compliant. When you reduce the cc you also reduce the pulling power, ie it is now 400nm as opposed to 420nm. When you are paying the kind of money that we are paying then I think it is prudent to look at all options to ensure that they have bettered the vehicle. When a new model is released then it should at least be better than it's predesessor. The price has gone up but the power, torque have gone down and MPG has not moved very much it is still in the same VED bracket so no improvement there (geartronic). If it turns out that a new chip will better last year's engine figures and this is able to be done via Volvo dealers then mayby they should have put the new engine in the car AND chipped it to give the same figures, that way people would not be worried that they have tried a 2.4 engine and now have ordered a vehicle with an engine that is unknown. Chipping is after all a software upgrade, the same that we have on our phones and computers. Any bikers out there will know what i mean by simply saying Power Commander.

Apr 16th, 2010, 16:43	#5
ChrisE Volvo Owner Since 1990 Last Online: Apr 3rd, 2024 13:27 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Norwich	The change of engine size might well have been marketing differentiation and the tax level changes that some european countries still, I believe, have at 2 litres. Please note that the torque & power are lower; but so is the revs at which they happen. This is a good thing for a diesel but what happens in the real world is anydody's guess. We will have to wait & see. Personally the changes mean that I would possibly buy a D3 manual but a D5 automatic.

Apr 16th, 2010, 20:17	#6
Teejay1 Master Member Last Online: Jun 24th, 2023 21:53 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tyne and Wear	I've just done that today, D3 manual.

May 15th, 2010, 12:57	#7
clemster New Member Last Online: Sep 7th, 2010 23:13 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: salisbury	Still waiting for details from my dealer about the Polestar upgrades that Volvo officially now do. Here is a link for the 2.4D engine that they tinkle with. Notice that even though the BHP and the Torque have improved, the MPG is the same, even the Co2 is. How can that not be better?? If they can do this for the 2.4 and that is at 163BHP then what would the D3 be???? Have a look and let me know what you think. http://www.polestar.se/viewpage.asp?...6&edition=p_uk

May 16th, 2010, 16:35	#8
Stuartwmcc Junior Member Last Online: Feb 17th, 2018 20:40 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Glasgow	Anyone know how much it costs to get polestar upgrade and also does it impact your insurance? It sounds like an interesting upgrade re oomph without impacting fuel.....or are there other better / more cost effective options?

May 16th, 2010, 21:26	#9
Daleman Master Member Last Online: Mar 25th, 2024 22:24 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: York	These figures don’t read the same as the 2009 XC60 2.4 Geartronic I am looking at in the brochure with urban @30.4 extra urban@ 50.4 and combined @ 40.9 with a CO2 g/km of 183. BHP is 175 and torque 420Nm Those polestar figures must be for a fairly old early XC60 2.4 with a relatively dirty engine so they are incomparable with the newer cleaner 2.4 let alone the D3 .I think one can only make do with the D3 as standard until we see what the chip men can do with it.

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