Keyless cars causing deaths.

[nu11eaf]

BBC reports that people are dying because they are not turning ingnition off in hybrid cars when running on pure electric, has anyone in the UK done this.
I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

Keyless cars causing dozens of deaths - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44124546

[SwissXC90]

All those people have earnt Darwin Awards.

[volvoid]

brainless drivers causing deaths. Fancy that

[AB-UK]

Obviously US buyers should be made to take an IQ test first.

Then again, who could they sue for millions in court if they can't blame someone else for their lack of common sense?

[Haldex]

Yeah, dumb people kill people- not smart cars..

[Deman77]

I think ignition should switch off when car is in gear but stationary and the door opens. I normally switch off the car when I stop and step out of it without ever thinking about it and I am also used to my auto handbreak. I once had to stop on the side of the road to close the door that my toddler suddenly opened (child lock was off). I was in distress and it was an unusual situation. I didn’t switch off the car. I didn’t take it out of gear and incidentally auto break was disabled by my in-law who thinks he has to press that and P to release handreak. I stepped out and the car started moving. Could have been bad. It never happened to me before or after but in a distressing unique situation people may not follow the usual routine and for something as obvious as opening the driver door in stationary in gear car it should just shut down.
I welcome your scorn and abuse and accept the stupidity award but I don’t see a rational reason for this not to be a safety feature.

[nu11eaf]

I can understand what happened above, I pulled up on my drive once with kids messing about and dog barking in the back, wife shouting for them to shut up radio on etc as I turned my ignition off, but car was in gear with my foot on the brake, so engine did not stop as it was still in gear and due to all the noise and fuss I never noticed, and as I took foot of the brake and opened my door the car moved forward, luckily I was able to stop it before it hit the wall. I had just got the car then and all my previous automatic cars had stopped the engine with ignition when in gear but would not let you start it in gear, but the new one will not stop if in gear. I find this very strange. (I know there is a warning in driver display but I never noticed it)

But the situation in the main story is parking up after using pure electric and car either left in park mode or neutral and no petrol engine running so silent and being left, the battery then runs low so petrol engine starts up as ingition is still turned on and runs on and on filling garage with carbon monoxide.

[Philip Fisher]

Originally Posted by Deman77

I think ignition should switch off when car is in gear but stationary and the door opens. I normally switch off the car when I stop and step out of it without ever thinking about it and I am also used to my auto handbreak. I once had to stop on the side of the road to close the door that my toddler suddenly opened (child lock was off). I was in distress and it was an unusual situation. I didn’t switch off the car. I didn’t take it out of gear and incidentally auto break was disabled by my in-law who thinks he has to press that and P to release handreak. I stepped out and the car started moving. Could have been bad. It never happened to me before or after but in a distressing unique situation people may not follow the usual routine and for something as obvious as opening the driver door in stationary in gear car it should just shut down.
I welcome your scorn and abuse and accept the stupidity award but I don’t see a rational reason for this not to be a safety feature.

Maybe it is a T8 thing but I think it is impossible for the car to run away with you. When my @rse comes off the seat the car realises and bangs it in park. I also use auto handbrake and the car puts it in proper park (ie p on dash) rather than a on dash as soon as my belt comes off. Maybe I will switch off autohandbrake and try to get out with it in D tomorrow and see what happens. If I post from hospital we will know the result......

On a related note I really love the T8 crystal gear selector. Not for it's crystalness but because it works like a joystick rather than a conventional clunk and move selector. This also means that all I do to turn off the car is turn the stop start knob to the left and the car does everything else. I might get a D5 next time. Does anyone know if the crystal selector is specable on the D5?

[Philip Fisher]

Originally Posted by nu11eaf

BBC reports that people are dying because they are not turning ingnition off in hybrid cars when running on pure electric, has anyone in the UK done this.
I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

Keyless cars causing dozens of deaths - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-44124546

My garage is so full of man stuff that there is no chance of this ever being a problem for me. I am pleased that I can now claim that this hoarding is a safety feature!

[Haldex]

Originally Posted by Deman77

I think ignition should switch off when car is in gear but stationary and the door opens. I normally switch off the car when I stop and step out of it without ever thinking about it and I am also used to my auto handbreak. I once had to stop on the side of the road to close the door that my toddler suddenly opened (child lock was off). I was in distress and it was an unusual situation. I didn’t switch off the car. I didn’t take it out of gear and incidentally auto break was disabled by my in-law who thinks he has to press that and P to release handreak. I stepped out and the car started moving. Could have been bad. It never happened to me before or after but in a distressing unique situation people may not follow the usual routine and for something as obvious as opening the driver door in stationary in gear car it should just shut down.
I welcome your scorn and abuse and accept the stupidity award but I don’t see a rational reason for this not to be a safety feature.

I can think of any number of situations where this (engine shutting off with driver’s door opening..) would be a problem- but autobrake engaging with door opening could work, I suppose..

Never let your inlaws drive your volvo!