E10 for 240s?

morsing · Mar 4th, 2020, 06:52

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51731757

I believe this should be ok for 240s? Think this was discussed a few years ago.

Wagon Sailor · Mar 4th, 2020, 22:57

I've tried E10 in all of my Hondas. Irrespective of any longevity or materials degradation issues, they don't like it.

I'm going to avoid it in the 240 for as long as I can.

DW42 · Mar 5th, 2020, 05:29

E10 should be fine in a 240. However, the E10 at my nearest petrol station doesn't have high enough octane for my 1992 with LH2.4 injection. It tends to ping its way up hills with the air con on if I use anything less than 95 octane, even though technically 91 should be fine.

heckflosse · Mar 5th, 2020, 07:31

Time for a LPG revival?

rustytoba · Mar 7th, 2020, 18:41

Hi All,

When I took 'Greta' to Sweden a while back E10 was pretty much all I could find from about the Dutch border northwards.

About 10 days and 1600 miles, it didn't seem to make much of a difference but that was a K-Jet.

Scott

Othen · Mar 8th, 2020, 07:14

I don't think E10 will make any difference to the Royal Barge's B21A engine - that is a fortunate accident: it is young enough to run on bleifrei but old enough not to have any sensors and computes that might get confused by a slight change of fuel.

More ethanol in the gas is sort of an inevitability, and generally a good thing if our human race is going to live on a bit longer, but it may mean that a generation of cars become difficult to drive and maintain without significant modification.

Alan

PS. By chance I saw this in the Telegraph this morn:

https://classics.honestjohn.co.uk/ne...-classic-cars/

classicswede · Mar 8th, 2020, 09:54

Not something I am worried about with running our cars mainly on LPG.

Carb and Kjet cars will adapt with little issues at all. LH2.4 is a bit less so and changing the ECU chips for ones geared towards E10 would be a good idea

Othen · Mar 15th, 2020, 09:46

It looks like all will be well:

https://classics.honestjohn.co.uk/ne...lassic-owners/

Clifford Pope · Mar 15th, 2020, 14:30

In the same way that they said leaded 4* would continue to be available for classic owners? Yes, there were (still are?) about 4 petrol stations in the country selling it.

Othen · Mar 16th, 2020, 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clifford Pope

In the same way that they said leaded 4* would continue to be available for classic owners? Yes, there were (still are?) about 4 petrol stations in the country selling it.

According to this list there are 36 garages selling leaded 4 star petrol in the UK:

http://www.silverforce.co.uk/TB-UK/list.htm

... but I take your point though, 36 among 60 million people is still not many. I don't think this is much to do with the government (which is, I suppose whom you meant by 'they'), I think it is just down to there being almost no demand.

I suppose most people with a motor that needs 4 star leaded petrol have either modified it with hardened valve seats, or they have found an additive to compensate.

:-)

Alan

Mar 4th, 2020, 06:52	#1
morsing Premier Member Last Online: Apr 22nd, 2024 07:56 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Aylesbury View Photos By: morsing	E10 for 240s? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51731757 I believe this should be ok for 240s? Think this was discussed a few years ago. __________________ --- '89 Volvo 240GLT B230E/AW70 '14 Volvo V70 SE D4/M66 FWD '70 Chevrolet Chevelle Malibu '95 Saab 9000 CSE 2.0 Turbo Auto

Mar 5th, 2020, 05:29	#3
DW42 Senior Member Last Online: Oct 9th, 2022 04:41 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Currumbin, Queensland	E10 should be fine in a 240. However, the E10 at my nearest petrol station doesn't have high enough octane for my 1992 with LH2.4 injection. It tends to ping its way up hills with the air con on if I use anything less than 95 octane, even though technically 91 should be fine. __________________ Present: 1990 240GL saloon, 1992 240 estate Past: 1988 240GL; 1971 144DL; 1972 145DL

Mar 8th, 2020, 07:14	#6
Othen Premier Member Last Online: Yesterday 23:10 Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Corby del Sol	I don't think E10 will make any difference to the Royal Barge's B21A engine - that is a fortunate accident: it is young enough to run on bleifrei but old enough not to have any sensors and computes that might get confused by a slight change of fuel. More ethanol in the gas is sort of an inevitability, and generally a good thing if our human race is going to live on a bit longer, but it may mean that a generation of cars become difficult to drive and maintain without significant modification. Alan PS. By chance I saw this in the Telegraph this morn: https://classics.honestjohn.co.uk/ne...-classic-cars/ Last edited by Othen; Mar 8th, 2020 at 09:10. Reason: PS.

Mar 8th, 2020, 09:54	#7
classicswede Trader Volvo in my veins Last Online: Yesterday 22:55 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Anglesey	Not something I am worried about with running our cars mainly on LPG. Carb and Kjet cars will adapt with little issues at all. LH2.4 is a bit less so and changing the ECU chips for ones geared towards E10 would be a good idea __________________ http://www.classicswede.org www.classicswede.co.uk

Mar 4th, 2020, 22:57	#2
Wagon Sailor Junior Senior Last Online: Yesterday 23:45 Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Hampshire	I've tried E10 in all of my Hondas. Irrespective of any longevity or materials degradation issues, they don't like it. I'm going to avoid it in the 240 for as long as I can.

Mar 5th, 2020, 07:31	#4
heckflosse Premier Member Last Online: Oct 28th, 2023 12:30 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: dereham	Time for a LPG revival?

Mar 7th, 2020, 18:41	#5
rustytoba Master Member Last Online: Nov 24th, 2023 01:11 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Glasgow	Hi All, When I took 'Greta' to Sweden a while back E10 was pretty much all I could find from about the Dutch border northwards. About 10 days and 1600 miles, it didn't seem to make much of a difference but that was a K-Jet. Scott

Mar 15th, 2020, 09:46	#8
Othen Premier Member Last Online: Yesterday 23:10 Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Corby del Sol	It looks like all will be well: https://classics.honestjohn.co.uk/ne...lassic-owners/

Mar 15th, 2020, 14:30	#9
Clifford Pope Not an expert but ... Last Online: Yesterday 08:04 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Boncath	In the same way that they said leaded 4* would continue to be available for classic owners? Yes, there were (still are?) about 4 petrol stations in the country selling it.

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