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vanno · Jan 16th, 2019, 07:51

Hi, My S70 2.5 20v petrol auto needs a new battery. I was able to put it on charge and get the car started. I left the car ticking over to replenish the battery and noted after approx. 10 mins it was just coming up to temp with 1/4 tank of fuel. Popped in the house for a cuppa and planned to leave the car for about 30mins or so. Returning to the car it was not running! Tried to start it and it was turning over fine but would not start. After about a dozen turns the bad battery kicks in and I'm out of juice again. The car has been running fine with no issues. Any thoughts please, many thanks.

SteveSarre · Jan 16th, 2019, 09:11

Hi Vanno
What year?
Steve

vanno · Jan 16th, 2019, 09:14

Year is 1997

SteveSarre · Jan 16th, 2019, 09:17

Hi

Do you have a code reader?

Presume no codes or warning lights?

Apart from the usual suspects, one thing that can happen out of nowhere is that the camshaft position sensor fails.

http://www.volvohowto.com/volvo-850-...sition-sensor/

After that, possibly the ignition switch unit on the left of the steering column. That can sometimes be encouraged to work if you jiggle the key or tap it. But not easy without a good battery.

And then depending on year, the MAF can fail suddenly.

Hope that helps,
Steve

SteveSarre · Jan 16th, 2019, 09:19

The usual suspects include fuel and spark.

Test for spark by removing a lead and seeing if it sparks when you crank.

I am assuming that the car used to start and run fine prior to this.

If no spark, then suspect the coil pack on the left front wing.

vanno · Jan 16th, 2019, 09:25

I have access to a code reader later today. No warning lights on dash. I have a new battery on order so will make your checks when that is fitted. Many thanks for your help.

vanno · Jan 16th, 2019, 11:05

Just an update... no error codes showing engine or HT. Battery arriving tomorrow.

SteveSarre · Jan 16th, 2019, 13:40

OK, since no codes I would guess no spark caused by coil failure.

Just saying,
Steve

vanno · Jan 16th, 2019, 13:49

Okay, will check when new battery is fitted, many thanks.

Redskiies · Jan 16th, 2019, 13:54

I had this before...
battery working, it sparks, all good...
it was in an astra coupe, and I didn't know that time, that the fuel gauge is waaay too optimistic...

so my 1st question is... did you buy some extra petrol, and filled her up a bit more?

Jan 16th, 2019, 07:51	#1
vanno Senior Member Last Online: Yesterday 22:25 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Kirkby in Ashfield, Nottingham	Non Starter Hi, My S70 2.5 20v petrol auto needs a new battery. I was able to put it on charge and get the car started. I left the car ticking over to replenish the battery and noted after approx. 10 mins it was just coming up to temp with 1/4 tank of fuel. Popped in the house for a cuppa and planned to leave the car for about 30mins or so. Returning to the car it was not running! Tried to start it and it was turning over fine but would not start. After about a dozen turns the bad battery kicks in and I'm out of juice again. The car has been running fine with no issues. Any thoughts please, many thanks. __________________ 1997 V70 SE 2.5 Auto Petrol Non Turbo Estate

Jan 16th, 2019, 09:11	#2
SteveSarre Premier Member Last Online: Apr 10th, 2024 17:15 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London/West Country	Hi Vanno What year? Steve __________________ V70 2.5 Turbo AWD Man. 1999 Red V70 2.5 10V Auto 1998 Green C70 T 20V Auto Conv. 2001 Blue, C70 T5 Auto Conv. 2000 Blue V70 2.5 Turbo AWD Auto 1998 Green, V70 2.5 10V Auto BiFuel 1999 Red (scrapped) V70 20v Auto 1999 Green (scrapped)

Jan 16th, 2019, 09:14	#3
vanno Senior Member Last Online: Yesterday 22:25 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Kirkby in Ashfield, Nottingham	Non starter Year is 1997 __________________ 1997 V70 SE 2.5 Auto Petrol Non Turbo Estate

Jan 16th, 2019, 09:17	#4
SteveSarre Premier Member Last Online: Apr 10th, 2024 17:15 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London/West Country	Hi Do you have a code reader? Presume no codes or warning lights? Apart from the usual suspects, one thing that can happen out of nowhere is that the camshaft position sensor fails. http://www.volvohowto.com/volvo-850-...sition-sensor/ After that, possibly the ignition switch unit on the left of the steering column. That can sometimes be encouraged to work if you jiggle the key or tap it. But not easy without a good battery. And then depending on year, the MAF can fail suddenly. Hope that helps, Steve __________________ V70 2.5 Turbo AWD Man. 1999 Red V70 2.5 10V Auto 1998 Green C70 T 20V Auto Conv. 2001 Blue, C70 T5 Auto Conv. 2000 Blue V70 2.5 Turbo AWD Auto 1998 Green, V70 2.5 10V Auto BiFuel 1999 Red (scrapped) V70 20v Auto 1999 Green (scrapped)

Jan 16th, 2019, 09:19	#5
SteveSarre Premier Member Last Online: Apr 10th, 2024 17:15 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London/West Country	The usual suspects include fuel and spark. Test for spark by removing a lead and seeing if it sparks when you crank. I am assuming that the car used to start and run fine prior to this. If no spark, then suspect the coil pack on the left front wing. __________________ V70 2.5 Turbo AWD Man. 1999 Red V70 2.5 10V Auto 1998 Green C70 T 20V Auto Conv. 2001 Blue, C70 T5 Auto Conv. 2000 Blue V70 2.5 Turbo AWD Auto 1998 Green, V70 2.5 10V Auto BiFuel 1999 Red (scrapped) V70 20v Auto 1999 Green (scrapped)

Jan 16th, 2019, 09:25	#6
vanno Senior Member Last Online: Yesterday 22:25 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Kirkby in Ashfield, Nottingham	Non starter I have access to a code reader later today. No warning lights on dash. I have a new battery on order so will make your checks when that is fitted. Many thanks for your help. __________________ 1997 V70 SE 2.5 Auto Petrol Non Turbo Estate

Jan 16th, 2019, 11:05	#7
vanno Senior Member Last Online: Yesterday 22:25 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Kirkby in Ashfield, Nottingham	Non starter Just an update... no error codes showing engine or HT. Battery arriving tomorrow. __________________ 1997 V70 SE 2.5 Auto Petrol Non Turbo Estate

Jan 16th, 2019, 13:40	#8
SteveSarre Premier Member Last Online: Apr 10th, 2024 17:15 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: London/West Country	OK, since no codes I would guess no spark caused by coil failure. Just saying, Steve __________________ V70 2.5 Turbo AWD Man. 1999 Red V70 2.5 10V Auto 1998 Green C70 T 20V Auto Conv. 2001 Blue, C70 T5 Auto Conv. 2000 Blue V70 2.5 Turbo AWD Auto 1998 Green, V70 2.5 10V Auto BiFuel 1999 Red (scrapped) V70 20v Auto 1999 Green (scrapped)

Jan 16th, 2019, 13:49	#9
vanno Senior Member Last Online: Yesterday 22:25 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Kirkby in Ashfield, Nottingham	Non starter Okay, will check when new battery is fitted, many thanks. __________________ 1997 V70 SE 2.5 Auto Petrol Non Turbo Estate

Jan 16th, 2019, 13:54	#10
Redskiies Junior Member Last Online: Sep 8th, 2019 17:59 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: London	I had this before... battery working, it sparks, all good... it was in an astra coupe, and I didn't know that time, that the fuel gauge is waaay too optimistic... so my 1st question is... did you buy some extra petrol, and filled her up a bit more?

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