Do I put more money into it? - Page 3

TiredGeek · Jun 21st, 2018, 21:04

If it's a sticky turbo that's bugging you, have a look on YouTube for "turbo oven cleaner fix".

Have you tried "exercising" the turbo?
Find a long bit of quiet road, bung the thing in top gear at as low a speed as it will handle, ~800rpm, put your foot to the floor and keep it there as long as you dare.
This forces the variable vanes in the turbo to move to their full extent. Done a few times you may be lucky to get them to free up....

Leyburn · Jun 22nd, 2018, 07:04

Older S60s can't get much cheaper to buy, four decent tyres can equal 50% of market value. On the other hand, if it's car you know and are happy to keep driving then set an escape plan and stick to it i.e. if the DMF or autobox goes then the car has to go.

Oil Burner · Jun 22nd, 2018, 08:23

Hi all,

The sticky turbo is infrequent but annoying.

I tend to have a bout of instances and then it will go a away for months, then come back again.

So I am not fully clogged up or stuck.

I do try to exercise the turbo every day, though not as easy when its an automatic transmission.

Exercising does help but has not cured it, though to be fair it is a lot better than years ago.

I also use premium diesel all of the time. The car never, and I mean never puts out smoke. The only time you see it would be at night in a following cars headlights there is a very faint haze if I give the car a boot-full, thats all. Nothing like all the German cars I see on the road with black coming out the back.

TiredGeek · Jun 22nd, 2018, 20:10

Try a good strong dose of millers fuel additive, then use it regularly for a while and see if it helps with the turbo issue, can't hurt anything except maybe your wallet.
I've been using it in mine for the last 50k and I have definitely noticed a reduction in the number of "soot filter full" messages I get. No other changes in driving so it must be the millers.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Millers-O...sAAOSw--xbBnsU

Stev Mac · Jun 27th, 2018, 17:38

Hello, Oil burner, I understand your quandary I too have had multiple costs since my purchase of my V70 2.6 years ago with 95,000 on the clock. Apart for the services and consumables + 3 brake callipers I had a catastrophic engine failure at 105,000 miles which led to the top end rebuilt. Secondly, a clutch failure at 118,000 miles both ended up just short of £4,600. As the car cost £5,000 I'm in for £9,600 However, touch wood, I have travelled 28,000 miles thus far, in pleasurable comfort and safety. I was at one point desperate as to what could possibly go wrong next but decided to push on in absolute denial and ignorance. The only thing that stopped me was the possibility I would buy something else with similar problems I have had to shell out for. Just thought I should share that with you.

stellamon · Jun 27th, 2018, 22:57

I'm very sad if a car costs me more than £300 a year to run, not including mot tax insurance etc. I reckon £300 is about right for oil n filter changes n discs n pads etc. get a big bill n suck it up but not a massive one, move it on if that happens.
just bought a honda accord 2.2 idtec, love it and no problems even at 150k.
I enjoyed my 2004 T5 and my 2004 V70R but loving this more now. Hasn't got the power but very comfy and economical.
Not had any problems to fix either which is a rare thing for me after buying vw passats and volvos.

Ritch · Jul 1st, 2018, 11:06

I understand this quandary too! This has been a common feature of my V70 ownership.

I just voluntarily chucked another £650 at my V70 with 173k and that took months of deliberation!

Background - bought at auction for peanuts 3 years ago on a bit of a whim. On way home realised it needed a new valve body. Sucked it up, drove like a dream after (and has continued to.) £500

6 months later, a squeaking noise and a hot rear wheel resulted in a complete rear axle rebuild - bearings, shoes, pads, discs and the major culprit, one sticky caliper. £250

6 months later, the little pulsing on roundabouts is now annoying me and I decide it's rack rebuild time. At the same time I attacked the cause of the D/R take up thud and changed out the engine mounts throughout. Also Poly'd the voids £400

Car is epic, reliable, super comfortable and does everything we want it to do - and - this is key, it's a mega safe car that the good lady and kiddies drive around in and I feel relaxed. Also, it's smart enough to look nice but if I came back to it being dinged or scraped it wouldn't really bother me.

So zip forward to present day. We now have a car which I have a good history of which also has had most of the common issues sorted. (can you guess what's left?). We did 3k miles driving around France last year with it loaded to the gunwales. But, she was driving so bouncy and boaty it was getting to me and like I say, the wife uses it daily for school etc. £650 on a whole host of bushes, springs and shocks throughout plus several days of spannering. This was not an easy decision on a 13 year old car with +170k!!!

Another reason is I also put a towbar on recently as we bought a little trailer for camping and garden stuff.

My thought process was simple. I'd maybe get £2k for the car max? What else out there can I get for £2.5k that will have had all that work done and can (fingers crossed) have a better than not chance of getting to the South of France tomorrow if needed? Incidentally, it drives like a new car now.

If it suffers a catastrophic engine or box failure tomorrow then it will have all been for nothing but i still think I am ahead of the cost/value curve - just. Would of course be different if I wasn't doing all this with my own hands.

My money is on lifters next.........

F***ing Volvos........

Dippydog · Jul 1st, 2018, 12:25

Had my V70[a P1 aka The Barge]for 2yrs now.In that time I've put on a new front brake caliper,front pads a front wheel bearing a headlight bulb a pair of front wipers an outer cv boot and converted to contactless TPS.Done oil,oil filter,air filter,plugs and3 new tyres.Oh and a new thermostat and radiator.I have ready to go on a pair of bottom arms and a set of rear brake pads-I'm going to wait while after Tuesday to see what M.o.T. man says before fitting these.How much of the above you want to class as routine stuff or "over and above" costs I'll let you decide.Thing is the car only cost me £50 with 10mths M.o.T. on it to begin with.

Oil Burner · Jul 1st, 2018, 15:32

Well, mine is now booked in for its annual MOT and service at the Main Dealer in 2 weeks time.

Main Dealer you say? Yes, I use them and have done for the last 4 years.

So we shall see what that throws at us this time.

davebb · Jul 1st, 2018, 17:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oil Burner

Well, mine is now booked in for its annual MOT and service at the Main Dealer in 2 weeks time.

Main Dealer you say? Yes, I use them and have done for the last 4 years.

So we shall see what that throws at us this time.

What does it cost for a service ?
Dave

Jun 21st, 2018, 21:04	#21
TiredGeek Master Member Last Online: Sep 29th, 2022 20:46 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Leeds	If it's a sticky turbo that's bugging you, have a look on YouTube for "turbo oven cleaner fix". Have you tried "exercising" the turbo? Find a long bit of quiet road, bung the thing in top gear at as low a speed as it will handle, ~800rpm, put your foot to the floor and keep it there as long as you dare. This forces the variable vanes in the turbo to move to their full extent. Done a few times you may be lucky to get them to free up.... __________________ Defected to BMW. 335d xdrive.

Jun 22nd, 2018, 20:10	#24
TiredGeek Master Member Last Online: Sep 29th, 2022 20:46 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Leeds	Try a good strong dose of millers fuel additive, then use it regularly for a while and see if it helps with the turbo issue, can't hurt anything except maybe your wallet. I've been using it in mine for the last 50k and I have definitely noticed a reduction in the number of "soot filter full" messages I get. No other changes in driving so it must be the millers. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Millers-O...sAAOSw--xbBnsU __________________ Defected to BMW. 335d xdrive.

Jun 27th, 2018, 22:57	#26
stellamon Member Last Online: Nov 24th, 2019 15:41 Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: shrewsbury	I'm very sad if a car costs me more than £300 a year to run, not including mot tax insurance etc. I reckon £300 is about right for oil n filter changes n discs n pads etc. get a big bill n suck it up but not a massive one, move it on if that happens. just bought a honda accord 2.2 idtec, love it and no problems even at 150k. I enjoyed my 2004 T5 and my 2004 V70R but loving this more now. Hasn't got the power but very comfy and economical. Not had any problems to fix either which is a rare thing for me after buying vw passats and volvos. __________________ V70 T5 SE Auto 2004 Whale Oil Beef Hooked

Jul 1st, 2018, 11:06	#27
Ritch Junior Member Last Online: Apr 8th, 2024 11:46 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Cambridge	I understand this quandary too! This has been a common feature of my V70 ownership. I just voluntarily chucked another £650 at my V70 with 173k and that took months of deliberation! Background - bought at auction for peanuts 3 years ago on a bit of a whim. On way home realised it needed a new valve body. Sucked it up, drove like a dream after (and has continued to.) £500 6 months later, a squeaking noise and a hot rear wheel resulted in a complete rear axle rebuild - bearings, shoes, pads, discs and the major culprit, one sticky caliper. £250 6 months later, the little pulsing on roundabouts is now annoying me and I decide it's rack rebuild time. At the same time I attacked the cause of the D/R take up thud and changed out the engine mounts throughout. Also Poly'd the voids £400 Car is epic, reliable, super comfortable and does everything we want it to do - and - this is key, it's a mega safe car that the good lady and kiddies drive around in and I feel relaxed. Also, it's smart enough to look nice but if I came back to it being dinged or scraped it wouldn't really bother me. So zip forward to present day. We now have a car which I have a good history of which also has had most of the common issues sorted. (can you guess what's left?). We did 3k miles driving around France last year with it loaded to the gunwales. But, she was driving so bouncy and boaty it was getting to me and like I say, the wife uses it daily for school etc. £650 on a whole host of bushes, springs and shocks throughout plus several days of spannering. This was not an easy decision on a 13 year old car with +170k!!! Another reason is I also put a towbar on recently as we bought a little trailer for camping and garden stuff. My thought process was simple. I'd maybe get £2k for the car max? What else out there can I get for £2.5k that will have had all that work done and can (fingers crossed) have a better than not chance of getting to the South of France tomorrow if needed? Incidentally, it drives like a new car now. If it suffers a catastrophic engine or box failure tomorrow then it will have all been for nothing but i still think I am ahead of the cost/value curve - just. Would of course be different if I wasn't doing all this with my own hands. My money is on lifters next......... F***ing Volvos........ __________________ 2006 V70 D5 SE LUX, 200k and counting.....

Jun 22nd, 2018, 07:04	#22
Leyburn Member Last Online: Oct 1st, 2023 16:31 Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: London	Older S60s can't get much cheaper to buy, four decent tyres can equal 50% of market value. On the other hand, if it's car you know and are happy to keep driving then set an escape plan and stick to it i.e. if the DMF or autobox goes then the car has to go.

Jun 22nd, 2018, 08:23	#23
Oil Burner Member Last Online: Apr 17th, 2023 18:48 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Down South	Hi all, The sticky turbo is infrequent but annoying. I tend to have a bout of instances and then it will go a away for months, then come back again. So I am not fully clogged up or stuck. I do try to exercise the turbo every day, though not as easy when its an automatic transmission. Exercising does help but has not cured it, though to be fair it is a lot better than years ago. I also use premium diesel all of the time. The car never, and I mean never puts out smoke. The only time you see it would be at night in a following cars headlights there is a very faint haze if I give the car a boot-full, thats all. Nothing like all the German cars I see on the road with black coming out the back.

Jun 27th, 2018, 17:38	#25
Stev Mac Junior Member Last Online: Feb 5th, 2024 17:44 Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Hitchin	Hello, Oil burner, I understand your quandary I too have had multiple costs since my purchase of my V70 2.6 years ago with 95,000 on the clock. Apart for the services and consumables + 3 brake callipers I had a catastrophic engine failure at 105,000 miles which led to the top end rebuilt. Secondly, a clutch failure at 118,000 miles both ended up just short of £4,600. As the car cost £5,000 I'm in for £9,600 However, touch wood, I have travelled 28,000 miles thus far, in pleasurable comfort and safety. I was at one point desperate as to what could possibly go wrong next but decided to push on in absolute denial and ignorance. The only thing that stopped me was the possibility I would buy something else with similar problems I have had to shell out for. Just thought I should share that with you.

Jul 1st, 2018, 12:25	#28
Dippydog Premier Member Last Online: Apr 21st, 2024 09:45 Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: S****horpe	Had my V70[a P1 aka The Barge]for 2yrs now.In that time I've put on a new front brake caliper,front pads a front wheel bearing a headlight bulb a pair of front wipers an outer cv boot and converted to contactless TPS.Done oil,oil filter,air filter,plugs and3 new tyres.Oh and a new thermostat and radiator.I have ready to go on a pair of bottom arms and a set of rear brake pads-I'm going to wait while after Tuesday to see what M.o.T. man says before fitting these.How much of the above you want to class as routine stuff or "over and above" costs I'll let you decide.Thing is the car only cost me £50 with 10mths M.o.T. on it to begin with.

Jul 1st, 2018, 15:32	#29
Oil Burner Member Last Online: Apr 17th, 2023 18:48 Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Down South	Well, mine is now booked in for its annual MOT and service at the Main Dealer in 2 weeks time. Main Dealer you say? Yes, I use them and have done for the last 4 years. So we shall see what that throws at us this time.

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