Speed limiter

[Marty Dolomite]

Originally Posted by ThomasG

Show me scenario where plane passengers are responsible for crash.

One date..... 9/11.
and that's not the only one.

[ThomasG]

Originally Posted by Whippy

Things approved by the European Parliament today:

* Copyright Directive
This will see search engines taxed for links, and content platforms rather than users being liable for copyright violations. Memes are protected though, so that's fine.

* Revision to General Safety Regulation
This will make the following tech mandatory fit in all cars in the EU by 2022:
Automatic emergency braking
Lane departure warning
Intelligent speed assistance (GPS-linked speed limiter)
Alcohol interlock
Driver drowsiness, attention and distraction detection and warning
Emergency stop signal
Reversing cameras/detectors
Accident data recorder (black box)

Please, oh please oh please oh please...

Tell me you are just winding us up...

Or else please provide link to EU site..

[ThomasG]

Originally Posted by Marty Dolomite

One date..... 9/11.
and that's not the only one.

Yeah.. Immediately after writing that post I started wondering who'll be first to bring that one up..

But.. Just for the record.. THAT was a deliberate action.
Thus its rather hard to compare with, let's say, idiot cyclist with Dr Dry headphones on his skull, oblivious to the fact that his tail light failed and there's high speed lorry approaching..

[Whippy]

Originally Posted by ThomasG

Please, oh please oh please oh please...

Tell me you are just winding us up...

Or else please provide link to EU site..

BBC News - Road safety: EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47715415

[ThomasG]

Originally Posted by Whippy

BBC News - Road safety: EU plans vehicle speed limiters from 2022
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47715415

Yeah...

I feel like having a word with Mrs Bienkowska..

And then burying what's left in the forest..

(Its a (slightly altered) quotation from one of Polish black comedies, namely "chlopaki nie placza" (boys don't cry), don't take it as a threat)

[Whippy]

I wonder what this will do to the 'performance' car market? I can see Ferrari loving this!

[Dippydog]

Another step to autonomous vehicles.Prepare to start stockpiling your "fast" Fords/Vauxhalls/Volvos et al.

[Odysseus]

I don't disagree with everything in the proposal. Everyone wants to see cars made safer and road deaths reduced, but to me many of the solutions proposed are typically socialist - that is to say controlling and an affront to individual responsibility.

Rather than proposing harsher punishments for individuals for unsafe driving (tailgating, poor lane discipline, and so on) they are all about limiting individual liberty for society.

Thankfully what I've read shows that common sense may prevail and in particular the speed limiter features can be overrode but, but I'm definitely ill-at-ease with the kind of thought processes that lie behind proposals like this.

[Whippy]

And, while a number of you are sitting there thinking " doesn't bother me, I don't speed" ask yourself this question, who going to pay for all the extra tech involved, cos there's a lot of it. And the answer is of course the new car buying public, that's who. Also consider this, once the tech is onboard the way is then clear for the government to tax you, every single one of you for road use. Every road, every mile. They are foisting the use of electric cars on us and will need to recoup the loss of tax previously gathered at the pumps.

[biggbn]

Huge step in the right direction.