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From XC60 to Porsche Macan or BMW X3?

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Old Jan 27th, 2016, 22:57   #11
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Nigel, I had hoped the F-pace would be a serious contender but unless I want to be paying a price of £51k+ then I am stuck with the 4cyl Ingenium engine which seems suspiciously similar to the VEA in our Volvo. No discounts (true too of the Porsche) on the Jaguar.

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The next-generation Touareg is due in 2017. Not as 'trendy' but solid as a rock and slightly more unusual than the ubiquitous X3. Based upon the (new) Q7 platform but 'better value', and you could still afford a few interesting options. Bullet-proof 3-litre 6-cylinder chain cam engine. Might be too large however.
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Old Jan 27th, 2016, 23:36   #12
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New Tiguan is much larger and nicer looking than first gen. Boot same as X3 according to reports. Higher power diesels 178 and 220(?) should also be good. Then there's the new skoda Kodiak which will be 4.7m long so plenty of room if you get past the badge. GLC 250d got good recent report on what car too. Disco sport needs probs sorting first according to it's forum but it's growing on me. X3 shape a little odd. Macan very small compared to xc60. Too many choices..hmm F Pace.......
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The next-generation Touareg is due in 2017. Not as 'trendy' but solid as a rock and slightly more unusual than the ubiquitous X3. Based upon the (new) Q7 platform but 'better value', and you could still afford a few interesting options. Bullet-proof 3-litre 6-cylinder chain cam engine. Might be too large however.
Who made the V6 engine fitted in the Discovery / Range Rover Sport? Their pair of EGR valves are a know problem with the engine.
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The Ingenium engine in the Discovery Sport is very weak compared to the old SD4 as discovered in a back to back drive, for me the seats are uncomfortable as well.

X3 3.0D is a lovely engine but a recent test drive showed it to be thirsty, also I found the foot well cramped and offset in the X3. No spare wheel either.

I am currently tempted by the GLC very good CO2s for tax (129) quiet engine and nice to drive. Price is not too bad but servicing & insurance & warranty are ridiculously expensive and again no spare wheel. Also an attitude problem whereby they do not offer headlamp washers because they are not required with LED lights.

I still fancy buying the last of the 5's with better spec than this one.
The Ingenium engines do use urea injection into the exhaust. Would that reduce issues with the EGR?
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Can get new shape 2nd hand range rover for £50k

But out of the bmw n porsche, I'd choose the porsche any day.
Think it's a great looking car.
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Who made the V6 engine fitted in the Discovery / Range Rover Sport? Their pair of EGR valves are a know problem with the engine.
The Jaguar 3 litre engine is a Ford AJD-V6/PSA DT17, according to Wikipedia.
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New Tiguan is much larger and nicer looking than first gen. Boot same as X3 according to reports. Higher power diesels 178 and 220(?) should also be good.
As far as I know the configurator for the new Tiguan for Germany was just launched and I was disappointed to see that the only diesel engine available is the same old 4cyl 2.0 TDI at 150PS. Compared to the outgoing model, not that different from the outside either. However, they seem to have definitely fixed the boot problem.

To each his own taste and preference of course, but I believe the exterior of the Macan is great. The interior is nowhere near the elegance of the exterior. If I could afford the GTS, I wouldn't mind the interior either

My wife and I both loved the new XC90 to be honest, if we were in the market now; it would be our first pick.
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Reading with interest as also looking for something in the same category (although the Macan isnt on my list as too expensive for me!)

I had an XC60 as a company car for a few months and enjoyed it apart from fact it was a manual. A 5 cylinder auto would be good but I am assuming the auto is still 6 speed rather than new 8 speed?

I like the X3 but mainly for the engine and not the interior.

I like the Disco 4 but way bigger than I need or want. The Disco Sport does nothing for me and should be available with a 6 cylinder diesel given the prices they charge.

The F pace looks promising but at 51k for a 6 cylinder and no deals to start with I would need to wait a while....

Q5 is old model so wont have that one. Tiguan doesnt appeal and Toureg is too big....as is Q7.

Xc90 too big and only 4 cylinder....

Dont think there is anything that really hits the spot and I wont spend north of £40k unless it is really what I want...
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Can get new shape 2nd hand range rover for £50k

But out of the bmw n porsche, I'd choose the porsche any day.
Think it's a great looking car.
I'd try get the Porsche or better still the Cayenne.
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Porsche, Porsche, Porsche, Porsche.

After your experiences with the turtle I would go with something utterly reliable and something people will not hate you in. Porsche every day. Will keep its value well also. Only issue may be parts / servicing costs.

Another alternative. Have you thought of the Lexus RX? Bomb proof and again, you will not be disliked in it.
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