Polestar pricing

[NewVolvo]

Originally Posted by nomorework

Because you can Polestar a D5 and get more power? Because the D5 badge has more 'street cred' than the D4 badge? Because money is not a deciding factor?

De-badge the car and no-one could tell

Originally Posted by I-S

And insuring a d5 may be easier and cheaper than insuring a polestar vehicle.

Most likely yes. I am guessing that the difference between a D4 and D5 for insurance costs are very small and would probably be much lower than going for the D4 + Polestar would be.

[nomorework]

Originally Posted by NewVolvo

De-badge the car and no-one could tell

Yep, that's an option, but it's not for me

[volvorocks]

Originally Posted by nomorework

Because you can Polestar a D5 and get more power? Because the D5 badge has more 'street cred' than the D4 badge? Because money is not a deciding factor?

I suppose I know what you mean as I thought " mmmm perhaps I will pop 'D6' on the back of my next XC60"...That would provide good forum talk when it was spotted on the road

Just really that I heard that Volvo weren't doing one as it would hamper D5 sales.

It's like the T3 150 s/v60 and the T4 180. The T3 versions were nigh on £7k less than an identical T4, yet you could Polestar a T3 to 180 for a few hundred quid! Didn't make any sense to buy a T4 - both had same engines as well, so it wasn't like the customer was getting an extra turbo or a larger cc!!!

Regards badge and street cred, are people still obsessed with this?...!!

I remember watching a docu on tv many years back where if you had GL or even better GLi on the back of your company Cavalier in the car park - it signified you were 'going places'. There was real panic if you only had L written on the back....lol..!!

Regards

[twlogan]

So where is the best place to get a polestar upgrade done. Even though it states £830 on the dealers websites every one I have called has quoted me more than this and didn't seem too sure. What should I expect to be paying for a polestar upgrade on an XC60 D3 2012 2.4

[Crockers]

Found this on ebay..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-VO...item336d1ee8ad

[tangey]

I wonder what will be the policy for polestar-ing the new engines.

Is it still the case that the 181 and the 237 (?) engines are still mechanically identical ? To keep the value of the higher one, one assumes that Volvo will delay offering polestar on this engine for a while ?

[thanosgr]

The new D4 - D5 is almost the same with the previous D4 - D5.
Same Displacement and cylinders (new 2.0l 4cylinders, previous 2.4l 5cylinders) but D4 is single turbo, D5 is sequential turbo's.

[Crockers]

Are you talking about the 5cylinder or 4 cylinder D4?

If 5 cylinders then both have twin turbos.

[I-S]

Lots of confusion!!!

Let's be clear - Polestar won't touch the old 5 cylinder 2.0 D3/D4 engine, as used in FWD vehicles (Engine code D5204T2).

The 2.4 litre D3/D4 as used in AWD vehicles (D5244T16) is a twin-turbo engine (as Crockers said) and appears to be extraordinarily similar to the D5 other than power output. Polestar will remap this engine from 163BHP to 215BHP.

I test drove an XC70 with this engine and found it horrendously "strangled" when trying to press on on the motorway.

Currently there is no indication of any polestar offering for the D4 181, and it seems unlikely that it will be offered at all (based on it never being offered for the FWD 2.0 D4 in the past).

Out of interest, where did you get the 237bhp figure for the VEA D5 tangy?

Whilst such a figure is perfectly feasible for the VEA D5, I suspect that it won't represent a real-world increase in performance over the 205/215 generation 5-cylinder D5s. The VEA 181 engine is a fraction peakier than even the old 5cyl 2.0 D4, and gets its higher power figure through a little less torque fall off at high revs. The 5 cylinder D5s were up against the limits of the Aisin-Warner 6 speed transmission, especially in Polestar tune, and it seems from my interpretation of what little information their site offers that the new 8 speed transmission isn't specified for oodles of torque either.

I'm expecting that the VEA D5 will probably offer about 420Nm 1750-3000rpm, but then fall off a bit slower than the old engines, leading to peak power at about 4500rpm.

[tangey]

Originally Posted by I-S

Lots of confusion!!!

Currently there is no indication of any polestar offering for the D4 181, and it seems unlikely that it will be offered at all (based on it never being offered for the FWD 2.0 D4 in the past).

Out of interest, where did you get the 237bhp figure for the VEA D5 tangy?

rusty memory, I think it was 237, or maybe 231, it was quoted on a document on this board somewhere.