Does a V50 07 2.0D SE have a dpf or is it only Euro 4 models

[Lee '71]

I think the only way is to take your car into either a main dealer or a Volvo specialist and get them to check it for you. No messing about with 8th digits or someone says this and someone says something else.

[kebab10]

Originally Posted by Uk Saint

I think calling people doubters and claiming no trust in other members opinions is a bit strong. As I feel I have pointed out strongly enough, I was not calling Clans opinion/knowledge mearly adding some input I took as official which came from Volvo UK.
You obviously have more experience than me regarding whether they are a trustworthy source of information for their own product. All I did was attempt to relay the information that I thought may have been valuable to others. Do I honestly deserve the negativity for that?

First impressions of this site were a friendly place to be with good open discussion, I'm beggining to think I may have been wrong.

In every forum or social site there are always people who will question the knowledge being passed on by other users. Its a fact of life. Simple really.

[Uk Saint]

Originally Posted by Lee '71

I think the only way is to take your car into either a main dealer or a Volvo specialist and get them to check it for you. No messing about with 8th digits or someone says this and someone says something else.

Probably the best way tbh Lee but I was hoping to find out before purchase as I am in the market for a decent new-ish car and don't want to saddle myself with a future big bill hence my input on the subject.
As I may have mentioned in another post, I am looking at a 57plate SE facelift version tomorrow and was wanting to learn of the signs before making a decision.

Originally Posted by Clan

They are wrong , i stand by what i said above !

They contradict themselves from post #3 above:

"Dear Mr PXXXX,
Thank you for your email and I apologise for the delay in responding to
you. I can confirm that your vehicle does not have a particulate filter.
This information is gleaned from the chassis number YV1MW7541A25*****.
75 is the engine variant and the following 4 shows that it is Euro 4
emissions which do not have the filter. I hope this is the information
you require, thank you for your contact with this office.
Yours sincerely


<-removed->
Customer Support Manager
Volvo Car UK Ltd"

and there IS a more robust system from 2009 model year , it has a particle filter which doesnt need any attention and NO EOLYS top up

Originally Posted by Daim

BUT it is ONLY for the engines with a Powershift automatic!

All MMT6 D4204Ts with DPF have the Eloys stuff. Those with an MPS6-4 box (Powershift) don't and have the same system as the D3/D4/D5

Picking through the email that was sent could it be that the 8th digit has been mis-interpreted and it may actually be the 6&7th engine variant number that could be the indicator? 4 being the Euro 4 engine and the 6&7 being the engine variant
The reason I say this is we appear to have DPF's fitted to cars with a 8th digit of 4 and cars that don't?
There must be a consistant indicator in the VIN somewhere that denotes the correct variant and it makes sense that it would be the engine type?
According to Volvo it's digits 6&7 that denote the engine type and the 8th which denotes the emissions so even if it's a Euro 4 emissions the engine type could indicate the presence of the dreaded filter?

Just some opinions to throw into the discussion. I would like to place on record that I am not calling anyone else's opinion on the subject wrong

[Ninja59]

i think iirc there is some with a 4 out there with an without a filter.

[Uk Saint]

As mentioned in my post above, I went and looked at the 57 plate SE Facelift version and can confirm after looking at the back of the engine that it does have a DPF fitted. You cannot actually see it from underneath without jacking the car up as the bottom cover hides it.
It was located right at the back pointing at a diagonal-down to follow the route of the exhaust.
It loooks like a small backbox with small-ish pipes into/out of it, the rest of the exhaust bolts onto that. It looks to have been replaced on the 75K service that has just been carried out but it does have the "SRS Airbag Service Urgent" message on the DIM.
After speaking to the previous owner it turns out its an ECU failure that has flagged up as he had the codes read at Volvo before part exchanging. Does anyone know if it is possible to hide this by clearing the codes or will it stay until replaced? The reason I ask is I have put a deposit on the car on the condition that the faults are rectified. The dealer has told me he will sort the fault before I pick it up Sunday but don't want to have him do a temporary repair by just clearing the codes to get it off the forecourt only to have it flag up on the way home.
Any help advice would be greatly appreciated.

[Clan]

Hello UK Saint ,
What you are describing is the catalytic converter , They are made from Stainless steel so always look "new" The actual Particle filter ( if it were fitted ) would be the next silencer shaped object along and exposed rearwards of the undertray under the gear lever area and parallel to the ground ...
The cars with particle filter have a particle filter pressure sensor fitted to the engine side of the battery tray with two rubber pipes and an electrical connector .... So hopefully good news for you :-)
If there is any problem at all with the SRS the light will come on and stay on until the fault is fixed . what ever they do with disconnecting the battery etc . Just make sure the SRS light comes on with the ignition and goes out just after the engine has started ,
Good luck , i'm sure you will enjoy the car ..

[Uk Saint]

Originally Posted by Clan

Hello UK Saint ,
What you are describing is the catalytic converter , They are made from Stainless steel so always look "new" The actual Particle filter ( if it were fitted ) would be the next silencer shaped object along and exposed rearwards of the undertray under the gear lever area and parallel to the ground ...
The cars with particle filter have a particle filter pressure sensor fitted to the engine side of the battery tray with two rubber pipes and an electrical connector .... So hopefully good news for you :-)
Good luck , i'm sure you will enjoy the car ..

Hi Clan

Thanks for your input mate.

The only thing I could see underneath was a very long cylindrical silencer/muffler which stretched for about 3-ish feet down the middle of the car in line with the transmission tunnel, then the backbox, I took that to be the cat so I assumed that the thing bolted to the back of the engine was the DPF which was about a foot & a half long and a kind of flattened oval shape. Hopefully by what you've said it doesn't actually have one
Funny thing is though the previous owner had his servicing done by the company he worked for who have their own service/fleet division. Upon talking to them today they told they have been topping up the eolys fluid?

Originally Posted by Clan

If there is any problem at all with the SRS the light will come on and stay on until the fault is fixed . what ever they do with disconnecting the battery etc . Just make sure the SRS light comes on with the ignition and goes out just after the engine has started

I have had it confirmed that it's an ECU fault/failure and was hoping that it wouldn't be hideable by fiddling the battery etc. The service light is refusing to be reset even though its been done due to the ECU spitting it's dummy out
Looks like they've got an expensive trip to Volvo this week! Any idea what an ECU goes for these days?

[Clan]

firstly an ECU can be anything from £200 to £800 depending on what it is .
The SRS light has nothing to do with the service light , so you must have 2 faults or one fault and someone not knowing what they are doing ..

Yes you have a normal silencer under your drivers seat from what you say , they are indeed very long on the non particle filter cars .
No particle filter = no EOLYS , the tank is situated on top of the centre of the rear axle member, a black plastic oval tank of about 2 litres , you shouldnt have one , just a metal weight instead to damp out vibration . so two things to look for when you next see it , the particle filter pressure sensor by the battery and EOLYS tank on the rear axle ... but with a 4 as the emission code you wont have them :-)

[Uk Saint]

From what you are saying it sounds like I can finally relax on the DPF issue! Thanks for your input on it mate, it's been a huge help.

I was told by the prev owner (very genuine old fella) that the codes read said the ECU had failed and the Volvo dealer told him as it had failed the car wouldn't allow the service light to be reset and once this was fixed/replaced it would?
He also said he had been quoted £400 for replacement if that helps?

Thanks again Clan, you've been brilliant bud

[Clan]

you are welcome , hope it all works out ok!