D4 VEA 'check engine' light / EGR fault thread

[Turnwood]

95g/km average?!?! Wow, no wonder the manufacturers are all moving towards hybrid systems.

[craigv60]

Originally Posted by GMcL

Alternatively, it's probably better they released the engine when they did as it bought them another year of real world testing. 2020 is not far away and the range average has to be down to 95g/km by then.

Heh, true, but it's a shame that it's paying customers doing the testing for them

[GMcL]

True, from a selfish point of view by the time I get around to buying again in 2018/19 they should have it sorted.

Most of the paying customers are company drivers. The private motorists out there must know they are early adopters and, as with any technology change, being at the bleeding edge hurts.

How many more BS bingo phrases can I pepper this with ?

[volvorocks]

Originally Posted by craigv60

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Volvo is EXTREMELY lucky that only a small percentage of cars go into limp mode and become undriveable with this fault. As it is, it's costing them a fortune in warranty repairs: but if more cars were stranded because of the fault, it would be catastrophic for the company's finances.

Doubt it would directly affect their finances. I understand that car manufacturers carry insurance (even if it is their own insurance company - ie a separate/independent part of their business) that pays out for warranty claims, in the same way as many general retailers carry supplier insurance as a condition of being supplied with goods by a manufacturer, so if the shop won't or can't pay for the goods, the insurance does.

Regards

[volvorocks]

Originally Posted by NigelDay

our contracts are with the dealers, not with Volvo. Why should the dealers be in the firing line for a Volvo denial ?

Just the way things are I suppose. Thing is it will be the customer 'in the firing line' or rather the one who suffers as if Volvo refuse to honour a warranty claim, then so will the dealers do the same to the customer. The customer then has to chase up the dealer whichever way they think fit, and the dealer likewise to Volvo. A right load of sometimes unnecessary hassle for the customer.

Regards

[RoyMacDonald]

Originally Posted by NigelDay

We just have to remember that 2 reports are only those which have come to the attention of Forum members. A large proportion of the 12,274 XC90 owners will not be on this Forum. Despite this, it does seem the D5 is reporting fewer problems.

Did you see that on the forum Nigel? I read the new XC90 forum articles and haven't seen any EGR issues posted, did I miss them?

[craigv60]

Originally Posted by GMcL

How many more BS bingo phrases can I pepper this with ?

Haha

I just wish they'd been more leading edge than bleeding edge. Perhaps if they'd done a few more test cycles, they'd have drilled down to the core of the problem. As it is, they haven't leveraged their expertise, and are hoping to kick the whole thing into the long grass.

[NigelDay]

Originally Posted by RoyMacDonald

Did you see that on the forum Nigel? I read the new XC90 forum articles and haven't seen any EGR issues posted, did I miss them?

See Rooster's post #965.

[RoyMacDonald]

Originally Posted by Rooster

Well 2017m/y diesel volvo's will have the addition of adblue so looks like they may be changing the amount of egr the VEA engines use again,

Altho i think its spa platform only

I can't find any press releases that confirm this. Are you sure you're not confusing Volvo cars with Volvo trucks which is a separate company?

Volvo position the DPF so close to the engine I would have thought that Ad Blue would be useless at the much higher operating temperatures experienced. Ad-Blue is normally only used where the manufacture can't manage fit the DPF close to the engine so the exhaust temperatures are much lower.

[RoyMacDonald]

Originally Posted by NigelDay

See Rooster's post #965.

Yes, I saw that but it didn't mention the forum so I assumed he'd seen it seen it somewhere else as I haven't seen it despite reading every new XC90 post.