Ordered an S90 R-Design (D4)...

[Jimrod]

Originally Posted by NickHoward

Regarding the cameras..... The 360 camera is the best feature on the car by an absolute mile - There's always the argument of "well, I've never had it, so won't miss it" - Which still rings true.....

But - If it's within budget, go for the 360 all day long.

Quick question - I've asked the dealer to price up the 360 cameras and take off the front park assist, presuming that would be included in that pack (I believe you have to spec "Intellisafe Surround" with the 360 cameras) but I can't actually see anywhere it says you still get the front sensors in hindsight. Does anyone know if you do?

I'd like it if the sensor view comes up if driving forward into a space and am pretty sure it does as standard with front sensors but guess it wouldn't if you only had cameras?

All round sensors should be included as standard on this size of car I think, even the German brands do now I believe! (A6, 5-Series etc) The packs all look a touch messy in what they include to me.

[bobby2000]

Originally Posted by Jimrod

Quick question - I've asked the dealer to price up the 360 cameras and take off the front park assist, presuming that would be included in that pack (I believe you have to spec "Intellisafe Surround" with the 360 cameras) but I can't actually see anywhere it says you still get the front sensors in hindsight. Does anyone know if you do?

I'd like it if the sensor view comes up if driving forward into a space and am pretty sure it does as standard with front sensors but guess it wouldn't if you only had cameras?

All round sensors should be included as standard on this size of car I think, even the German brands do now I believe! (A6, 5-Series etc) The packs all look a touch messy in what they include to me.

On the XC60 I have on order, I have specified 360 + front Park Assist as the 306 camera doesn't include front bleepers but it does rear.
Not sure if it's the same with the S90.

[Jimrod]

Originally Posted by bobby2000

On the XC60 I have on order, I have specified 360 + front Park Assist as the 306 camera doesn't include front bleepers but it does rear.
Not sure if it's the same with the S90.

Cheers for that, I'd imagine it would be the same for the S90! A bit tight of Volvo I think!

[bobby2000]

Originally Posted by Jimrod

Cheers for that, I'd imagine it would be the same for the S90! A bit tight of Volvo I think!

I've just built an S90 out of interest, and if you select the 360 camera you can only add the front park assist, but not the rear camera, which is exactly the same as my spec.

[Volvophile]

Jimrod, have you heard if your car is going to be a China build?

I'm assuming it likely is.

[Jimrod]

Originally Posted by Volvophile

Jimrod, have you heard if your car is going to be a China build?

I'm assuming it likely is.

Not yet, I discussed the 360 cameras with them yesterday and am weighing up the pro's and cons as it's quite an expensive add-on for a 2 year lease, they said next Wednesday is my "lock in" day with regard to options...

Info seems a little varied, I've read that all the Chinese S90's are the long wheel base versions for China and the US while the standard versions will still be made in Sweden... That seems to conflict with other things I've read - one thing's for sure I don't want the car any longer than it already is!

[berrymanuk]

Originally Posted by Jimrod

Not yet, I discussed the 360 cameras with them yesterday and am weighing up the pro's and cons as it's quite an expensive add-on for a 2 year lease, they said next Wednesday is my "lock in" day with regard to options...

Info seems a little varied, I've read that all the Chinese S90's are the long wheel base versions for China and the US while the standard versions will still be made in Sweden... That seems to conflict with other things I've read - one thing's for sure I don't want the car any longer than it already is!

Do you need the 360 Camera?

I have a Momentum, with the big display, reverse sensors and Pilot assist. That's it. I thought long and hard about what I actually used in both my old fully spec'd S80 and V60 cars, and I got it down to reverse sensors and adaptive cruise control.
I don't find the S90 difficult to park or maneuver, getting used to its size fairly quickly.

Just adding another viewpoint... especially as its a two year lease where you won't own it ...

[soupytwister]

Don't have a 360 camera or indeed even a rear camera on our XC90, and don't have any trouble parking it I'm sure they're great, but if on a lease, you're paying the full price divided by 24 payments - so essentially another £50/month just for the 360 camera?!

[Jimrod]

Originally Posted by berrymanuk

Do you need the 360 Camera?

I have a Momentum, with the big display, reverse sensors and Pilot assist. That's it. I thought long and hard about what I actually used in both my old fully spec'd S80 and V60 cars, and I got it down to reverse sensors and adaptive cruise control.
I don't find the S90 difficult to park or maneuver, getting used to its size fairly quickly.

Just adding another viewpoint... especially as its a two year lease where you won't own it ...

Originally Posted by soupytwister

Don't have a 360 camera or indeed even a rear camera on our XC90, and don't have any trouble parking it I'm sure they're great, but if on a lease, you're paying the full price divided by 24 payments - so essentially another £50/month just for the 360 camera?!

Thanks guys, it's good to hear both sides. The lease deal I'm getting is very good at £2200 up-front and 23 months at £245, with the camera that would go up to nearly £3k and £250 so quite a jump! My deal includes the R-Design spec with Onyx Black paint and front park assist (so I'd said to delete that if I take the 360 cam).

It'll be the biggest car I've had (next biggest would be a 2000 5-Series) and my concern would mainly be multi-storey car parks and when I fairly regularly have to go to city centres with tight on road parking. I know the 360 would be handy for that but not essential at all, the front sensors should cover it, although it's such a long car I'd have to be wary about scraping the sides on tight maneuvers!

I think part of it is coming from my Skoda Yeti where I have the top spec, it has all the toys included heated seats, front window, all-round sensors, self-parking etc etc and it would be the one new toy I don't already have as much as being useful! But financially it doesn't make a great deal of sense really, just a cool toy I guess, but a £900 (extra) one! That's why I'm 50/50 on it mostly, the longer I drag it out the nearer it comes to getting too late anyway so I'll probably just dither until then!

[Jcbrown]

Originally Posted by Jimrod

It'll be the biggest car I've had (next biggest would be a 2000 5-Series) and my concern would mainly be multi-storey car parks and when I fairly regularly have to go to city centres with tight on road parking. I know the 360 would be handy for that but not essential at all, the front sensors should cover it, although it's such a long car I'd have to be wary about scraping the sides on tight maneuvers!

I love the 360° camera.

I often have to negotiate narrow multi-storey car parks with high concrete walls on the ramps, covered in a multitude of paint colours. Some of London's underground/basement ones are pretty tight in the S90. Hell, they are probably pretty tight in a Smart car given the amount of paint marks on them.

However, I do not use the 360° camera for these, just the sensors. And I have managed not to scrape anything yet

Where I do use the 360° camera is pulling into parking bays to line myself up at the sides and front/rear. The S90 is a big car, and I find the 360° view fantastic for this.

That's my 2-peneth. I wouldn't be too bothered about the 360° camera in tight/narrow/twisty car-parks, the sensors should keep you safe there (and probably drive you insane in some of the tighter car parks