Massive fines for failing MOT from May 2018

[volvoid]

Originally Posted by Marty Dolomite

And that's also not true, a car could still meet the brake test requirement with a missing pad

Do you work for the Sun 'news' paper?

no I dont, and how ? Would have failed anyway on pad thickness. Or owners thickness.

[heckflosse]

The latest changes are due to an EU directive.
We are leaving the EU but regrettably not before it comes into effect, so our Government is obliged to implement it in all its commonsense glory, or be fined.
It says as much in the latest blurb from the DVSA.
Equally, there is the veiled threat that UK MOT'd vehicles would not be compliant in other EU countries unless we harmonise with the rest.
As a tester, I will feel happy that failing vehicles for missing under bonnet sound deadening and exhaust heat shields will make our and Europe's roads safer.
Its all EUrotosh. However, it is the rules and it is what we must work by.

Whats EU speak for" if it ain't broke don't fix it?"

As for 40 year old exemptions, totally bananas (straight or otherwise).

[volvoid]

Another lightweight article on the same subject.
Im not inventing this stuff about fines for using a car that fails its mot

https://www.petrolprices.com/news/ne...es-fines-2500/

[tofufi]

Originally Posted by heckflosse

The latest changes are due to an EU directive.
We are leaving the EU but regrettably not before it comes into effect, so our Government is obliged to implement it in all its commonsense glory, or be fined.
It says as much in the latest blurb from the DVSA.
Equally, there is the veiled threat that UK MOT'd vehicles would not be compliant in other EU countries unless we harmonise with the rest.
As a tester, I will feel happy that failing vehicles for missing under bonnet sound deadening and exhaust heat shields will make our and Europe's roads safer.
Its all EUrotosh. However, it is the rules and it is what we must work by.

You say it's all rubbish, but there are reasons that cars are fitted with sound deadening. Noise pollution is as much of a thing as other forms of environmental pollution.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33255542

http://ec.europa.eu/environment/nois...effects_en.htm

Do you really think that it's a bad thing that new cars are gradually being made quieter?

[Grimble]

Originally Posted by tofufi

Do you really think that it's a bad thing that new cars are gradually being made quieter?

You very rarely hear the engine anyway, its tyre noise that is by far the worst culprit. No sign of an EU directive forcing countries to build their roads properly is there? Might cost respective governments a few bob that one!

[tofufi]

Originally Posted by Grimble

You very rarely hear the engine anyway, its tyre noise that is by far the worst culprit. No sign of an EU directive forcing countries to build their roads properly is there? Might cost respective governments a few bob that one!

Who said anything about engines? The noise testing for new cars includes tyre noise. And the EU introduced that useful tyre labelling system so you can choose quieter car tyres.

And actually, the EU has certainly done some research into quiet road surfaces and the impacts of poor road maintenance...

[Teilo1979]

Originally Posted by tofufi

Who said anything about engines? The noise testing for new cars includes tyre noise. And the EU introduced that useful tyre labelling system so you can choose quieter car tyres.

And actually, the EU has certainly done some research into quiet road surfaces and the impacts of poor road maintenance...

While I'm not doubting the EU has done research into quiet road surfaces and the impact of poor maintenance. But where are the 'new laws' that will fine councils and the government for not providing them? Stark contrast when compared to the potential fines drivers will receive for falling foul of new rules.

[Bendolfc]

But noone is going to be fined, you are only going to be fined if your car fails the MOT on one of the major points and you continue to drive it anyway.

What a stupid thread.

[Teilo1979]

Originally Posted by Bendolfc

But noone is going to be fined, you are only going to be fined if your car fails the MOT on one of the major points and you continue to drive it anyway.

What a stupid thread.

I agree, mostly scaremongering as I (like most people) keep my car in a roadworthy condition. My biggest concern is the possible scenario of having a valid MOT but being subjected to a random roadside check and failing an emmisions related test and being fined. Although this scenario is not new because of the rule change its is an aspect of car maintenance that one cannot keep on top of with routine maintenance (unlike tyres, steering components and the like). My main bugbear is that (as always) the motorist is threatened with fines in the name of safety and the environment. Yet known safety and environmental benefits that could be implemented and fined for breaches are ignored because they are the responsibility of councils and governments. (Road conditions, potholes, traffic easing measures etc)

[Marty Dolomite]

Originally Posted by volvoid

no I dont, and how ? Would have failed anyway on pad thickness. Or owners thickness.

You can't see the pads on lot of cars and as to how... the caliper piston hits the disc, this causes the disc to stop turning a bit like how it works with pads but with more noise.