What's the problem with electric cars?

[Forg]

Originally Posted by Kev0607

And the electricity to charge an EV is produced with fossil fuels...

Part of it.
There's no such thing as a complete solution to pretty-much anything, but "doing nothing at all" isn't even a partial or incremental solution.

[Kev0607]

Originally Posted by Forg

Part of it.
There's no such thing as a complete solution to pretty-much anything, but "doing nothing at all" isn't even a partial or incremental solution.

That is true. There’s always going to be emissions… It will never be truly zero. New ICE cars will no longer be produced by 2035, leaving only the used market for ICE vehicles or EV’s then.

I’m not entirely convinced of how “green” EV’s are. It’s not just infrastructure for EV’s that needs looking at. Cleaner ways to produce the energy required to charge and manufacture them also has to be considered. Huge investment is required globally.

I think people often forget that there may be no tail pipe emissions from an EV, but the electric to charge it doesn’t magically appear. If everyone is driving around in EV’s in future, will we really be tackling emissions? Taking into account that renewable energy to charge these cars isn’t totally “green” either. The more EV’s that are on the road, that increases the volume of the production of electricity to keep them going, which in turn increases emissions. We can’t rely solely on wind. Progress has been made, but like everything, its going to take a long time and a lot of money to produce more sustainable non-fossil fuel energy.

There is no easy solution, but we could be robbing Peter to pay Paul.

[Tannaton]

Originally Posted by Kev0607

That is true. There’s always going to be emissions… It will never be truly zero. New ICE cars will no longer be produced by 2035, leaving only the used market for ICE vehicles or EV’s then.

I’m not entirely convinced of how “green” EV’s are. It’s not just infrastructure for EV’s that needs looking at. Cleaner ways to produce the energy required to charge and manufacture them also has to be considered. Huge investment is required globally.

I think people often forget that there may be no tail pipe emissions from an EV, but the electric to charge it doesn’t magically appear. If everyone is driving around in EV’s in future, will we really be tackling emissions? Taking into account that renewable energy to charge these cars isn’t totally “green” either. The more EV’s that are on the road, that increases the volume of the production of electricity to keep them going, which in turn increases emissions. We can’t rely solely on wind. Progress has been made, but like everything, its going to take a long time and a lot of money to produce more sustainable non-fossil fuel energy.

There is no easy solution, but we could be robbing Peter to pay Paul.

ICE cars will be still produced after 2035 and in their millions - just not sold in the uk and maybe Europe. It’s the same as saying my EV has no tailpipe emissions, when as a country we say aren’t we great we are net zero but we buy a load on stuff made in china…

Currently about 35% of the uk electricity is renewable (wind, solar). There is a huge difference between renewable and net zero (sustainable) - the latter (bio mass etc) is taking from Peter to pay Paul.