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What's the problem with electric cars?

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Old Jan 20th, 2023, 18:28   #11
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Hybrid, switch to electric in urban areas, diesel elsewhere, makes sense ATM , 100% electric not flexible enough, again, ATM.
Too much hype/ crap being talked by people who really don’t have a handle on the truth about the subject, just bandwagon PR.

Could be wrong, of course!🧐
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Old Jan 20th, 2023, 18:30   #12
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I had a Subaru XV hybrid today and I’ve had Volvo hybrids in the past. I like them, they got the economy, acceleration when needed and the smooth drive they deliver. Full fat lectric cars are still work in progress and the infrastructure still has a long way to go before I’ll consider one.
My brother has a Kia Optima which is always running on is batteries. His wife works six miles from home and she has an allocated charger at work so it’s free charging. Given the circumstances and a hybrid makes complete sense.

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Old Jan 21st, 2023, 10:00   #14
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For me its as simple as reliability.

Can I reliably charge my leccy car in my locale - no.**

Can I rely on it not to go "bang" (or have a major component go bang) when its out of warranty, leaving me with a repair that is more than the value of the car - no.

In a few years time, it'll be a different kettle of fish.


** I live rurally. A different matter if you live cheek by jowel with others.
Your second point re reliability is no different than any car, I'd actually argue there is significantly less chance of something going wrong in a vehicle with so much less moving parts.
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There was a program on EV's on I think BBC1 last night, essentially, don't bother.
One woman interviewed bought a small EV a few years ago. Per KV her cost went up by a factor of x3...WTF!
That's IF you can pack it close enough at home to charge it!
I've always found a survey sample of one to be very useful in proving a point I wish to make!
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What was Top Gear that became Fifth Gear has now metamorphised into Fifth Gear Recharged on Quest / Discovery Channel (channel 12 on Freeview).

Its worth watching as you get to see petrolheads like Vicki Butler Henderson and Jason Plato get their prejudices challenged by the performance of EVs and some of the emerging technology that we will see in the next couple of years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2bvDrUQ0Ow
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even if they open the Lounge back up to me which I'd rather they didn't I'm not going back to it. Cheers mate
Not often I bother posting in there so you're honestly not missing much SnineT.

Personally, at times I find it rather Toxic now...............

Opinions eh? 😉

Re Electric cars, the performance is beyond question but as many others have said, currently 😁, the infrastructure is woeful for the amount on the roads now, so that is going to be a massive task in itself prior to 2030 with no easy answers.
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Hybrids are the short term future for performance cars -
Until they tell you you need a new ERAD… 😬

It’s a shame diesel became a dirty word - especially since Euro VI came along.

Look at the BMW 3 litre twin turbo. A masterpiece of a powerplant. (Issues traffic police had with it in single turbo aside)
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It’s a shame diesel became a dirty word - especially since Euro VI came along.

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It is a shame, but diesel hybrids do exist.
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One of the problems I find with electric cars is being able to cut through all of the talk on my the internet to get to the facts and reasoned debate. I watched about half of the linked video and gave up after another assertion without evidence, and even if I accept that there were Tesla’s waiting 15 hours to charge at a services, it wasn’t too long ago that ICE drivers were allegedly following a cement tanker from Birmingham to Kettering in their desperation to get fuel. No car can be the optimal solution for all users, but a shortcoming in one particular situation doesn’t mean it’s totally useless elsewhere.
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