185bhp, how easy do your tyres spin?

[Dazza95]

I have only spun the wheels a handful of times in my S60 in nearly 3 years of ownership, running Cross Climates all round. It’s a 56 reg D5 (185) manual.

[Bashy]

Originally Posted by AndyV7o

So have you only just refitted them? They do take an age to bed back in and as such behave in a vile manner to begin with...

In reference to 'I saw a video on all seasons and how they behave' I think I know the vid and it isnt representative of real world conditions or todays all season which are a very different breed to 10 years ago. Also, I think that vid, as a lot do, was referring to american 'all season' which are basically like the summer tyres we used to have in the 90's, summer compound with a few sipes, rather like some 4x4 all terrain tyres, they are nothing of the sort the rest of the world have.

The video was on TV, perhaps top gear or the like, it was on an indoor ski slope.
All the all season vs winter that i have watched though, the winters always come 1st, braking, acceleration and handling.

When i had the dunlops on my laguna back in the last bad snow, i didnt even need to use my chains, but then i dont drive stupidly in the snow anyway.\

Perhaps ya right about the bedding in, time will tell, but i prefer to have them on al year anyway as they are good for mud too and i need that for when i fly my drone

[John97Tdi]

Hi, no offence intended, but it does sound as though you are offsetting the handling of your vehicle and therefore the safety of yourself and other road users for the sake of holding on to tyres that are appropriate for perhaps 1% of the time you are driving. Get a set of good all season tyres and you could be ready for 99% of driving conditions.

Best wishes, but I really hope I (or anyone else for that matter) don't encounter you 'spinning your wheels' because you thought you had time to get out from a junction.

Cheers

John

[Bashy]

Originally Posted by John97Tdi

Hi, no offence intended, but it does sound as though you are offsetting the handling of your vehicle and therefore the safety of yourself and other road users for the sake of holding on to tyres that are appropriate for perhaps 1% of the time you are driving. Get a set of good all season tyres and you could be ready for 99% of driving conditions.

Best wishes, but I really hope I (or anyone else for that matter) don't encounter you 'spinning your wheels' because you thought you had time to get out from a junction.

Cheers

John

If that's the case, then they would be illegal and fail the MOT, however, driving within the law, they are safe tyres in any weather, perhaps not the safest, but then we can only buy what we can afford. I recognise their limitations, i.e, not for track days on the A11. Winter tyres are not just for snow, they are for conditions below around 7ºC

[V8XCV]

The Dunlop Wintersport 3D stopped production several years ago, I would check the date stamp on your tyres. Dunlop produced the 4 and now the 5 (which I have been running for past two years)

From my experience of winter tyres (been running using them for over 15y living in Scotland) I find after 3 years the compound hardens and is useless, regardless of tread depth. I binned a set of Continental TS860 with 6mm tread on because after running them 3 months into the summer the tread had hardened and they were spinning in the wet.

I also use Goodyear Vector 4 Seasons 2 on my other car and they have some magic compound that does not harden in the summer and so far have been very good. I would say they do 90% of what the winter tyre can do (drove them in snow and ice extensively last winter), but they are not as good as a full winter from a premium brand, so on my long distance car I use a full winter (currently Dunlop Wintersport 5)

[AndyV7o]

Dunlop tyres degrade heavily anyway, its not unusual to get a perished or Teflon dunlop!
They don't harden in summer, they simply become like marshmallow, couple this with the sipes you can get pockets of water trapped between tread blocks and road which firmer rubber would expel, but, mostly its the lack of transfer, like using a sponge vs a squeegee.
The ws3d are easily overwhelmed in the wet at any temperature, I had some wild budget-like slides from mine I can tell you!
They weren't very good in snow either...

Current all season are a large improvement over the ws3d in any weather.
For someone wanting to remain mobile in winter and mud, they are the safest most sensible choice. If wanting to run winters year round, you want conti, goodyear, nokian, michelin, and less than 5 years old.