19T turbo?

[pyaap]

Originally Posted by smartbomb

As Don hinted at in an earlier post, none of the Mitsubishi turbos even come close to the performance of the Turbo Technics hybrid T28. The 19T will max out at about 325-330bhp. The hybrid will easily take 360-370, has exactly the same fittings as the 19T, holds top-end boost MUCH better (peak boost in my T4 is 21psi, from 3600rpm to ~7500rpm) and it costs about the same. Why people are still buying the 19T I have no idea.

I do actually believe the 19T is close to £670 so I'm not sure how that relates cost-wise to the T28 (perhaps similar or even more costly). But the main point is Turbo Technics will stand by their turbos to run at over 1.5bar all day long (warranted for 2 years I believe); that goes some way to showing the confidence in their product. Warranty on a Volvo sourced 19T is void the moment it is run above standard boost pressures used on the "classic" 2.4R AWD cars. In addition, I think its possible that some tuners have struggled to get a T28 to work properly, hence probably choose to stick with something that they are familiar and can work with. At the end of the day I guess a 19T is a straightforward swap whereas the T28 is more likely to be the choice of a more discerning tunee.

[pigapumbu]

Originally Posted by pyaap

... But the main point is Turbo Technics will stand by their turbos to run at over 1.5bar all day long (warranted for 2 years I believe); that goes some way to showing the confidence in their product. ... T28 is more likely to be the choice of a more discerning tunee.

What turbo do you use? cheers

[smartbomb]

Originally Posted by pyaap

At the end of the day I guess a 19T is a straightforward swap whereas the T28 is more likely to be the choice of a more discerning tunee.

Tunee. I like that. Is that a real word though...?

[Lance BLACK V70 T5]

I went for the 19t because 1, its used non other volvos, 2 I didnt want more than 350 bhp on a high miles car and 3 the main concideration cost.
Overall Im delighted the way the 19t performs and I believe it takes the t5 fairly near to its power limit withought the worry of having to upgrade internals!

[smartbomb]

Hi Lance. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying the 19T isn't any good, just that the hybrid is better. I know the 19T upgrade is tried and tested and is therefore a safe bet, but where would we be if people didn't experiment? Sometimes new ideas don't work out, sometimes they do. As for the cost, Turbo Technics actually did me a very good deal and I ended up paying less than I would have for a 19T, and as far as safe power limits for standard internals goes, that's all down to the mapping. You can have as much or as little boost as you like. All you need is a tuning company capable of mapping it to your requirements. My T4 is still running on standard internals (though not for much longer ) perfectly safely, but I now have the option of pushing it much further than I would with a 19T.

Paul

[Lance BLACK V70 T5]

Horses for courses I guess, I use my car for work so reliabity was a big issue and this hasnt been effected. If I drive sensibly the economy is impresive for a big car running pleanty of power for me!
Maybe one day I will go the hybrid route on a newer low mileage car!

[carpy]

Originally Posted by smartbomb

As Don hinted at in an earlier post, none of the Mitsubishi turbos even come close to the performance of the Turbo Technics hybrid T28. The 19T will max out at about 325-330bhp. The hybrid will easily take 360-370, has exactly the same fittings as the 19T, holds top-end boost MUCH better (peak boost in my T4 is 21psi, from 3600rpm to ~7500rpm) and it costs about the same. Why people are still buying the 19T I have no idea.

Paul

Surely if that's true then nobody would be using the 19T. There must be something more to it!

[PNuT]

is there any more info kicking about on these hybrid turbos like cost etc? were to buy bla bla bla?

[pyaap]

Originally Posted by pigapumbu

What turbo do you use? cheers

Its a Garrett GT30, the car was worked on by SW Autos and is running an MTE map. I think Smartbomb has hit the nail on the head here; ultimately it down to the actual software tuning on the car. When I first considered the 19T, I read about additional lag etc., but in reality, once tuned, there was more power and torque from 1500rpm all the way up to the redline so it really is down to the capability of the person doing the mapping.

[pyaap]

Originally Posted by PNuT

is there any more info kicking about on these hybrid turbos like cost etc? were to buy bla bla bla?

Hi PNut,

Here's some info as posted by TurboTechnics themselves on this forum some time back:

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showpo...2&postcount=16

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showpo...4&postcount=18

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showpo...7&postcount=21