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Old Jun 21st, 2018, 12:02   #41
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Not sure why you are talking about 240 stuff here. The OD conversion is straightforward except for the tunnel mods and you're more than capable of that. Using a normal 120/1800 OD box it will more or less bolt in.

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1.True but can be cut and shut. see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoIDQFYJOa0&t=81s

2. Not difficult. Small mods to current cross-member maybe.

3. True. Quick job for a specialist.

4. True but what you have should match unless you have a box/ J OD from a 140.

5.Totally untrue unless you want to use a 240 gearbox and engine and use it upright. Cam oiling maybe an issue if you do. Take this issue out of the equation.

6.Wiring is easy but you may have to drill the cast in boss on the gearbox lid to fit the lock-out switch.

7. OD with 4.10 is good. Much better and quieter cruising. It will drive the same as a 4 speed and you will then have the benefit of the OD. In flat Holland you will be able to use the OD as a normal 5th gear. PV is a bit lighter than an Amazon and it works fine in one of those. I've had one and I'd be happy to have a 4.10 in my Amazon Estate instead of the 4.56.

8. Gear lever doesn't change at all. As above, the top plate does need to have the lockout switch fitted. Some M40 lids come with a brass plug. Remove and fit switch.
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Are you saying you got a 240 gearbox? They maybe cheaper but makes for an expensive conversion. Stick to Amazon and PV parts.
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I agree with what derek has said I would keep it simple or else you start creating more problems to be spending money unless you have the engine and gearbox with the skills to fit it then yes it is very possible to fit other engines just make sure you go into this with your eyes open factoring all modifications in !

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Not sure why you are talking about 240 stuff here...
Only because it does get done and is potentially a cheaper solution which gives a stronger end product

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2. Not difficult. Small mods to current cross-member maybe.

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Unfortunately because of step #1 - widening the tunnel - the PV cross member will not fit. It also needs to further back because of the added length of the OD

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4. True but what you have should match unless you have a box/ J OD from a 140.
I'm pretty sure the output flange is bigger than the PV one

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5.Totally untrue unless you want to use a 240 gearbox and engine and use it upright. Cam oiling maybe an issue if you do. Take this issue out of the equation.
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Totally true! If you mount the 240 gearbox on the B18/B20 bell housing the whole gearbox is twisted to one side - the gear lever will no longer poke out upright!

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7. OD with 4.10 is good. Much better and quieter cruising. It will drive the same as a 4 speed and you will then have the benefit of the OD. In flat Holland you will be able to use the OD as a normal 5th gear. PV is a bit lighter than an Amazon and it works fine in one of those. I've had one and I'd be happy to have a 4.10 in my Amazon Estate instead of the 4.56.

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I've never driven one with an OD and 4.10 final drive ratio but by my calculations the OD will struggle. I've read somewhere that even PVs will reach a higher top speed under certain circumstances in 4th with OD disengaged.

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8. Gear lever doesn't change at all. As above, the top plate does need to have the lockout switch fitted. Some M40 lids come with a brass plug. Remove and fit switch.
I can assure that the gear shifter is in a totally different place on my 240 gearbox - it would come up between the front seats rather than just under the dashboard.

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Are you saying you got a 240 gearbox? They maybe cheaper but makes for an expensive conversion. Stick to Amazon and PV parts.
In Holland the D type OD and gearbox combo is usually priced between 800 and 1500 euros - I bought a beefier gearbox and overdrive for 100ish euros just to see what would need to be done

Approximately 10% of the PV gearbox and overdrive equivalent.

Anyway for me - you don't need to worry about this - as stated earlier I'm not going to try and fit this 240 gearbox I have. Not worth the hassle.
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Old Jul 5th, 2018, 22:19   #45
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it really looks like will need to try to find original gearbox and OD for amazon

because with 240 not to shore if i will understand all moods.
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4.10 and OD works fine for cruising, yes, hills and acceleration to pass may require a disengagement, but the economy and less wear and tear when cruising is worth it.
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hehey guys,

good news found 1965 amazon with fitted J type overdrive

so can soon start to upgrade all what we talked about

one question car has single circle brake system, is there point
to put dual circle system? and brakes feel little weak,
s thinking just new pads and discs oki? or better to put bigger
brake calipers??

and if you put car in overdrive does it gives some small sound out??
zzzzzz or it should be no sound?
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