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WIFESCAR · Nov 19th, 2020, 12:20

Afternoon all.
I have a keyless entry 2017 XC60 parked on the road, outside my property.
Two nights ago, 2 pond life like humans used a scanner to gain access to the vehicle. There was no damage, or anything taken. They had a good rummage around. The worrying thing is, they might be back to steal the car.
I have since, put the keys in a RFID protection wallet. I cannot open the car with the key in the wallet.
Does anyone out there have any more advice on how to prevent these low life, carrying on illegally.
I’ve heard that you can turn off/ isolate the key fob, to prevent the fob transmitting the signal. Also I’ve read that you can update the software/firmware.
Any help in this matter would be much appreciated.

techwatcher · Nov 19th, 2020, 13:34

Sorry this has happened.

Storing ALL of the keys in a Faraday pouch will completely mitigate the risk of the so-called 'relay attack'.

The fobs you have cannot be turned off or isolated and there's no updated software (in itself) which will help.

Volvo can supply updated keys as an accessory which have updated hardware to prevent relay attacks. I understand that they automatically switch off if they aren't moving.

Have a look here: https://accessories.volvocars.com/en...CC-518815/2018

Don't expect the updated keys to be cheap. I was quoted £375 for a single key a couple of months ago.

WIFESCAR · Nov 19th, 2020, 17:40

Many thanks for your prompt reply.

St Evelyn · Nov 19th, 2020, 18:20

You may want to take a look here as well - https://www.nav.tv/secure-a-key/volvo

I found these a while back but haven't bought them. One member who had his car stolen in the way you describe (steve99uk I think his username is) bought them for his replacement car and confirmed that they work well.

Roosterb · Dec 3rd, 2020, 19:03

Maybe not much help but we have a 44kg Doberman. He protects the whole street and wouldn’t flinch at taking somebody down when ordered.
But seriously keeping the keys in wallets is about all you can do to prevent this.

dingov70 · Dec 3rd, 2020, 20:06

Keep fobs in any metal box / tin / safe / wrapped in aluminium foil , they all block radio signals & defeat those scanning for RFID signals . Also owned a very very large German Shepherd ( 9½ stone ) for the security aspects

Nov 19th, 2020, 12:20	#1
WIFESCAR New Member Last Online: Apr 12th, 2024 11:28 Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Ramsgate	Thieving toe rags Afternoon all. I have a keyless entry 2017 XC60 parked on the road, outside my property. Two nights ago, 2 pond life like humans used a scanner to gain access to the vehicle. There was no damage, or anything taken. They had a good rummage around. The worrying thing is, they might be back to steal the car. I have since, put the keys in a RFID protection wallet. I cannot open the car with the key in the wallet. Does anyone out there have any more advice on how to prevent these low life, carrying on illegally. I’ve heard that you can turn off/ isolate the key fob, to prevent the fob transmitting the signal. Also I’ve read that you can update the software/firmware. Any help in this matter would be much appreciated.

Nov 19th, 2020, 13:34	#2
techwatcher Master Member Last Online: Today 08:18 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Greater Manchester	Sorry this has happened. Storing ALL of the keys in a Faraday pouch will completely mitigate the risk of the so-called 'relay attack'. The fobs you have cannot be turned off or isolated and there's no updated software (in itself) which will help. Volvo can supply updated keys as an accessory which have updated hardware to prevent relay attacks. I understand that they automatically switch off if they aren't moving. Have a look here: https://accessories.volvocars.com/en...CC-518815/2018 Don't expect the updated keys to be cheap. I was quoted £375 for a single key a couple of months ago. __________________ XC60 B5 Diesel MY2021 Last edited by techwatcher; Nov 19th, 2020 at 13:42.

Nov 19th, 2020, 18:20	#4
St Evelyn VOC Member Last Online: Mar 24th, 2024 19:52 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Trowbridge	You may want to take a look here as well - https://www.nav.tv/secure-a-key/volvo I found these a while back but haven't bought them. One member who had his car stolen in the way you describe (steve99uk I think his username is) bought them for his replacement car and confirmed that they work well. __________________ Current - 2017 V90 D4 Inscription Previous - 2011 S80 D3

Dec 3rd, 2020, 19:03	#5
Roosterb Senior Member Last Online: Apr 11th, 2023 16:37 Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Wigan	Maybe not much help but we have a 44kg Doberman. He protects the whole street and wouldn’t flinch at taking somebody down when ordered. But seriously keeping the keys in wallets is about all you can do to prevent this. __________________ MY20 XC60 B5P Inscription Pro Denim blue. With B&W.

Dec 3rd, 2020, 20:06	#6
dingov70 Master Member Last Online: Apr 22nd, 2024 06:42 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Blackpool	Keep fobs in any metal box / tin / safe / wrapped in aluminium foil , they all block radio signals & defeat those scanning for RFID signals . Also owned a very very large German Shepherd ( 9½ stone ) for the security aspects __________________ To stupidity & beyond Last edited by dingov70; Dec 3rd, 2020 at 20:14.

Nov 19th, 2020, 17:40	#3
WIFESCAR New Member Last Online: Apr 12th, 2024 11:28 Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Ramsgate	Many thanks for your prompt reply.

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