New to alloys...is this right??

'88740GL · Sep 29th, 2010, 18:41

Hello guys, i've just got the purchase of the year..... 2 pirelli's and 2 firestones with 7mm of tread on them...on alloys.....dont know the names of them....AND 3 avon tyres on steel rims...ALL for £75!!! Had to pick them up from doncaster so it was a 5 hour drive in total and i had got 'em!

The alloys were pretty mucky so i spent the best part of 3 hours cleaning them with hot soapy water and 2 pan scrubs, i need to get the corners clean in the nooks and crannies properly..*like when the weather stops p****ng down on me.

The thing is the way they sit on the car, the centre bearing cap, they dont push all the way home like they did on the steel rims...

heres some pictures:

http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/.../Photo0515.jpg

Notice how it doesnt fit all the way onto the centre cap? is that right?

http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/.../Photo0514.jpg

This is the front one too

Looking loads better already!

http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/.../Photo0516.jpg

Let me know what you think guys,

Secondly i need to get the cover caps for the centre too the guy is in the process of moving house, so he cant find them at the moment.

Rossi-fan · Sep 29th, 2010, 18:55

Mmmm, dos'nt look quite right. Could be wrong but, are they not the type of wheels that are usually held in with bolts rather than your nuts!

Jim760 · Sep 29th, 2010, 19:09

tge nuts are wrong, if you used the ones off yur car originally they will have been for steel wheels only. you can really mess alloys up with them nuts. you need proper alloy wheel nuts for them

OldBlueVolvo · Sep 29th, 2010, 19:17

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Originally Posted by Jim760

tge nuts are wrong, if you used the ones off yur car originally they will have been for steel wheels only. you can really mess alloys up with them nuts. you need proper alloy wheel nuts for them

I didn't know that. I have the same 'Aries' alloys as the OP but I didn't use different nuts when changing from steel to alloy. So what's the worst that could happen?

OldBlueVolvo · Sep 29th, 2010, 19:27

Nah, I've looked at the parts lists and there is only one nut listed for all wheel types. Please correct me if I'm wrong though.

'88740GL · Sep 29th, 2010, 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim760

tge nuts are wrong, if you used the ones off yur car originally they will have been for steel wheels only. you can really mess alloys up with them nuts. you need proper alloy wheel nuts for them

Whats the worst that can happen? are there any safety issues? i can only use nuts as the bolts are on my disks all round if its a case of scoring the inside of the alloy then thats not a problem, they were cheap enough anyways plus when the cap goes on no one will know any better, right?

treehorndogsbody · Sep 30th, 2010, 00:58

Be they right or wrong the alloys look very neat on the car.

'88740GL · Sep 30th, 2010, 01:04

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Originally Posted by treehorndogsbody

Be they right or wrong the alloys look very neat on the car.

Thank you treehorndogsbody, i was just worried when they didnt push onto the centre wheel bearing dust cap as fully as the steel rims did. The old tyres were ok'ish but i wouldnt chance my life on them, they were all hair line cracking and the rims were rusting and going flaky... Reckon it was an mot failure right there but its a shame, they were all continentals with at least 6mm of tread on all of them :-( what a shame

I'm not too sure about the balancing weights on the viewable side of the alloys though....never mind!!

les g Swaffer · Sep 30th, 2010, 08:24

Not sure but I think the steel nuts will cause the alloy's to crack .
I had to change the bolts If I had to put the spare on by last car that had alloy's on .as the spare was steel

Dr. Rog · Oct 3rd, 2010, 12:24

I think I understand what you mean.

Nice wheels. I have some from my GLE and they will go on the new car when the currently fitted tyres wear out.

Your nuts are rusty so replacement is a good idea. The inner face of the nut should be tapered the same angle as the wheel, try this off the car. If its a neat fit its OK. Your nuts look the same as mine so I think they are OK.

If you think the wheel is not "home" flat against the mounting face then that is an issue, You should not have to force it at all. Is there a build up of rust on the spigot (mounting diameter)? if so scrub it off.

Its worth noting that the alloys are very thick, so the bearing should not protrude through. Also the taper of the nuts aligns the wheel as well, more acurately than a clearance spigot. So make sure there is no bent studs and they are the right pitch.

Good luck.

Sep 29th, 2010, 18:41	#1
'88740GL Senior Member Last Online: Jun 2nd, 2013 22:00 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: salford	New to alloys...is this right?? Hello guys, i've just got the purchase of the year..... 2 pirelli's and 2 firestones with 7mm of tread on them...on alloys.....dont know the names of them....AND 3 avon tyres on steel rims...ALL for £75!!! Had to pick them up from doncaster so it was a 5 hour drive in total and i had got 'em! The alloys were pretty mucky so i spent the best part of 3 hours cleaning them with hot soapy water and 2 pan scrubs, i need to get the corners clean in the nooks and crannies properly..like when the weather stops p***ng down on me. The thing is the way they sit on the car, the centre bearing cap, they dont push all the way home like they did on the steel rims... heres some pictures: http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/.../Photo0515.jpg Notice how it doesnt fit all the way onto the centre cap? is that right? http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/.../Photo0514.jpg This is the front one too Looking loads better already! http://i1041.photobucket.com/albums/.../Photo0516.jpg Let me know what you think guys, Secondly i need to get the cover caps for the centre too the guy is in the process of moving house, so he cant find them at the moment.

Sep 29th, 2010, 19:09	#3
Jim760 Mr G Last Online: Jun 12th, 2020 19:11 Join Date: May 2007 Location: north yorkshire	tge nuts are wrong, if you used the ones off yur car originally they will have been for steel wheels only. you can really mess alloys up with them nuts. you need proper alloy wheel nuts for them __________________ will the jimousine ride again? previous models 940 TDI360 GLT 480 ES 740 GLE 940 SE 760 Executive 940 GL 850 GL 760 TIC V70 Torslanda

Sep 29th, 2010, 19:27	#5
OldBlueVolvo VOC Member Last Online: May 4th, 2023 20:38 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: West Sussex	Nah, I've looked at the parts lists and there is only one nut listed for all wheel types. Please correct me if I'm wrong though. __________________ William 745 GL - 1986, B230K 745 GLE - 1987, B230E

Sep 30th, 2010, 00:58	#7
treehorndogsbody VOC Member Last Online: Sep 7th, 2015 15:14 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: DEWSBURY	Nutz Be they right or wrong the alloys look very neat on the car. __________________ My car:- 2004(54) S60 SE D5 auto in Mistral Green with Cream leather

Sep 30th, 2010, 08:24	#9
les g Swaffer les g swaffer Last Online: May 3rd, 2013 11:06 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: maidstone View Photos By: les g Swaffer	Not sure but I think the steel nuts will cause the alloy's to crack . I had to change the bolts If I had to put the spare on by last car that had alloy's on .as the spare was steel __________________ http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lgswaff

Sep 29th, 2010, 18:55	#2
Rossi-fan Premier Member Last Online: Feb 12th, 2023 10:07 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Durham	Mmmm, dos'nt look quite right. Could be wrong but, are they not the type of wheels that are usually held in with bolts rather than your nuts!

Oct 3rd, 2010, 12:24	#10
Dr. Rog Master Member Last Online: Oct 21st, 2017 22:15 Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Kingsclere	nuts I think I understand what you mean. Nice wheels. I have some from my GLE and they will go on the new car when the currently fitted tyres wear out. Your nuts are rusty so replacement is a good idea. The inner face of the nut should be tapered the same angle as the wheel, try this off the car. If its a neat fit its OK. Your nuts look the same as mine so I think they are OK. If you think the wheel is not "home" flat against the mounting face then that is an issue, You should not have to force it at all. Is there a build up of rust on the spigot (mounting diameter)? if so scrub it off. Its worth noting that the alloys are very thick, so the bearing should not protrude through. Also the taper of the nuts aligns the wheel as well, more acurately than a clearance spigot. So make sure there is no bent studs and they are the right pitch. Good luck. __________________ Cheers Rog Previously owned 1996 940 SE auto and GLE manual, both B230FK estates.

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