Bristol 'going green'

[rudi dudi]

Yes I would quite frankly love to be left alone!!

[Dash300]

Originally Posted by rudi dudi

Quite frankly im getting completely fed up with being told what to do and not by governments that seem to move goal posts on a weekly basis.
Banning this, drive that ,eat this then a u turn later on.
Im at the point now where if im preached at so much that it's having an opposite effect .

Welcome to the oppressed majority!

[Zebster]

Originally Posted by Dash300

Welcome to the oppressed majority!

Certainly on this Volvo forum, perhaps. But I'm pretty sure that the wider community welcomes cleaner air in urban areas, such as Bristol. That the UK continues to miss improvement targets while people are dying from the effects of air pollution is indefensible.

[andy_d]

Originally Posted by Clan

It is not banning diesels over a certain age , it is banning ALL diesels of any age ...

Brilliant lets make that a uk wide thing for CARS

it has been known for YEARS that diesel is a DIRTY fuel that churns out FAR more nasty emissions than petrol, but the hoards of brain deads Will not accept the Facts. they bleat on about "my mpg, my savings my,,, my ,,," and "dpf this that the other" ,, brain washed more concerned with Their own £ than anything else, Brilliant move bristol lets hope Others pick up on this.

dont bother with the crap your going to post about your diesel being,, it isnt ,it will never be. YOUR selfishness HAS harmed everyones health, deal with it brain deads.

[Clan]

Originally Posted by Zebster

But things change. Would you rather just be left alone to keep on polluting, even though we now know that NOx emissions are potentially just as serious as particulates and CO2?

250 people a year die in Bristol due to the traffic pollution , official today ...

[green van man]

Originally Posted by Zebster

But things change. Would you rather just be left alone to keep on polluting, even though we now know that NOx emissions are potentially just as serious as particulates and CO2?

Pray how is CO2 emitions polluting?

CO2 is plant food and 0.04% of the atmosphere. If it drops below 150 ppm plants which produce our oxigen cannot survive, we are currently on 180 ppm.

In that one statement you have lost me, because I do not belive CO2 to be harmful, certainly not at present levels.

Paul.

[Zebster]

Originally Posted by green van man

Pray how is CO2 emitions polluting?

CO2 is plant food and 0.04% of the atmosphere. If it drops below 150 ppm plants which produce our oxigen cannot survive, we are currently on 180 ppm.

In that one statement you have lost me, because I do not belive CO2 to be harmful, certainly not at present levels.

Paul.

Really?

The problem isn't that CO2 is toxic, it's that it's a greenhouse gas. Human activity has and is significantly ramping up the levels present in the atmosphere and raising global temperatures. It's a definite problem with a scientific consensus...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scie...climate_change

[rudi dudi]

Originally Posted by andy_d

Brilliant lets make that a uk wide thing for CARS

it has been known for YEARS that diesel is a DIRTY fuel that churns out FAR more nasty emissions than petrol, but the hoards of brain deads Will not accept the Facts. they bleat on about "my mpg, my savings my,,, my ,,," and "dpf this that the other" ,, brain washed more concerned with Their own £ than anything else, Brilliant move bristol lets hope Others pick up on this.

dont bother with the crap your going to post about your diesel being,, it isnt ,it will never be. YOUR selfishness HAS harmed everyones health, deal with it brain deads.

Mate your entitled to your opinion... but your not entitled to call people Brain dead.
This thread was moving along nicely with debate .
You come along and start name calling .

[biggbn]

I would be delighted if Dundee banned all fossil fuel vehicles from it's centre, including my old diesel. I take my bike into town and it STINKS.

[green van man]

Originally Posted by Zebster

Really?

The problem isn't that CO2 is toxic, it's that it's a greenhouse gas. Human activity has and is significantly ramping up the levels present in the atmosphere and raising global temperatures. It's a definite problem with a scientific consensus...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scie...climate_change

None so blind as those that will not see.
CO2 doesnot cause warming, it is a byproduct of warming and lags tempreture rise by 600 to 800 years.
Instead of beliving the mainstream media do a bit of your own research. The long term trend in CO2 has been downwards for many thousands of years and we are currently at a dangerously low level.
The industrial revolution saved our lives. Untill we started useing fossil fuels we were in a paroulus state as CO2 levels had dropped to dangerously low levels due to reduced volcanic action.
At the time of the dinosaurs CO2 was many times higher than present , during the roman occupation grapes were grown in Northern Britain.

I a technophobe was able to find all this information on the net, not from loony sites but scientific lectures.

I suggest you look at ALL the evidence before making your mind up. I did and my opinion is at variance with the official message if only because the evidence has been doctored to support the message.

Paul.