Smart motorways and accidents.

ThomasG · Oct 17th, 2019, 09:40

For starters- no, I haven't been in one, I haven't witnessed one.. yet.

But recently I've been going trough a lot of YouTube clips, mostly looking at roads and junctions (the difficult ones) that I may be traveling on, soon.

And I stumbled upon something called "corridor of life".

Now, even if I came from Poland, I didn't know of this.. "invention".
And apparently it was widely advertised on net and media. Judging by clips I've seen- with a bit of success, too.

This made me think:

On "old" motorways, there was hard shoulder for ambulance or fire brigade to use. On "smart" ones, there isn't one.

Of course gantries may convey message to clear this or other lane, but then it may be simply too late. Cars packed bumper to bumper don't move to side all that easily (example in one of clips).

Trick is- drivers place cars to sides as soon as there is congestion. Not even knowing why there is congestion, already they are forming corridor. If needed- good. If not needed- nobody lost anything, eh?

So my question would be: how does the board find this idea?

One done right:

https://youtu.be/ukgfAqO5l7Q

And one where cars moved away too late, or didn't move at all (don't mind the intro)

https://youtu.be/FgmbW54MSIQ

T5R92011 · Oct 17th, 2019, 09:49

This cannot be implemented in the UK because people are very stupid.

ThomasG · Oct 17th, 2019, 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by T5R92011

This cannot be implemented in the UK because people are very stupid.

Judging by sh1tloads of clips I've seen, level of stupidity is the same

I have to say, though, English drivers are more.. cultural on the road. Driving ethics are better.

morsing · Jan 22nd, 2020, 11:22

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Originally Posted by ThomasG

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I have to say, though, English drivers are more.. cultural on the road. Driving ethics are better.

??????

No... Well, that will depend on who you compare them to. We drive from England to Denmark yearly and England is by far the country of the nutters. Everywhere else we drive through is fairly sensible.

ThomasG · Jan 23rd, 2020, 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by morsing

??????

No... Well, that will depend on who you compare them to. We drive from England to Denmark yearly and England is by far the country of the nutters. Everywhere else we drive through is fairly sensible.

Try Germany or Poland..

John.

If "others" are interested, but locals can't be bothered..

What does it say about Brits?

Cause that's what I'm not happy with.

Apparently it's "a horse that wouldn't drink to save it's skin". Too much effort.

Confirming/denying THAT, was the main goal of this.

john.wigley · Jan 23rd, 2020, 11:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasG

Try Germany or Poland..

John.

If "others" are interested, but locals can't be bothered..

What does it say about Brits?

Cause that's what I'm not happy with.

Apparently it's "a horse that wouldn't drink to save it's skin". Too much effort.

Confirming/denying THAT, was the main goal of this.

Sadly, I think that you have conclusively proved your point, Thomas. Guilty as charged - there isn't really anything that I can say in our defense.

Interestingly, safety on smart motorways was in the news again this morning (R4 around 9'ish), did you catch it?

Regards, John.

christheancient · Oct 17th, 2019, 10:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by T5R92011

This cannot be implemented in the UK because people are very stupid.

Agreed!

Plus there's too many vehicles out there to be able to find space to do it! The whole motorway system is so congested that everything just grinds to a halt across the whole width of the motorway when something happens in just one lane.

ThomasG · Oct 17th, 2019, 10:14

One of promotional clips, broadcasted by TV.

Only last sentence matters: "We were too late".

From time to time, UK TV and radio broadcasts things like "pedestrian hit with 30mph has 90% of dying, pedestrian hit with 20mph has 90% chance to live"

So why not something like this?

https://youtu.be/o3M6aSyPHhw

Or this:

https://youtu.be/G_KuYj7yVEY

T5R92011 · Oct 17th, 2019, 10:27

I'm hoping that following brexit, we can have a huge shakeup of standards in our society.

ThomasG · Oct 17th, 2019, 13:38

Great..

Not really a new idea..

Germany, Austria, INDIA(!).. half of the world is using this.

Not a mention of it locally, though.

I won't share my opinion...

Oct 17th, 2019, 09:40	#1
ThomasG Aka MadBabs Last Online: Nov 11th, 2022 15:29 Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: London	Smart motorways and accidents. For starters- no, I haven't been in one, I haven't witnessed one.. yet. But recently I've been going trough a lot of YouTube clips, mostly looking at roads and junctions (the difficult ones) that I may be traveling on, soon. And I stumbled upon something called "corridor of life". Now, even if I came from Poland, I didn't know of this.. "invention". And apparently it was widely advertised on net and media. Judging by clips I've seen- with a bit of success, too. This made me think: On "old" motorways, there was hard shoulder for ambulance or fire brigade to use. On "smart" ones, there isn't one. Of course gantries may convey message to clear this or other lane, but then it may be simply too late. Cars packed bumper to bumper don't move to side all that easily (example in one of clips). Trick is- drivers place cars to sides as soon as there is congestion. Not even knowing why there is congestion, already they are forming corridor. If needed- good. If not needed- nobody lost anything, eh? So my question would be: how does the board find this idea? One done right: https://youtu.be/ukgfAqO5l7Q And one where cars moved away too late, or didn't move at all (don't mind the intro) https://youtu.be/FgmbW54MSIQ __________________ `03 V70 Mk2 Auto 2.4 B5244 NA, 170Bhp, 295K miles (Now parts donor) '05 XC70 MK2 Geartronic, 2.5 B5254T2, 210bhp, 129k miles

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ThomasG Aka MadBabs Last Online: Nov 11th, 2022 15:29 Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: London	One of promotional clips, broadcasted by TV. Only last sentence matters: "We were too late". From time to time, UK TV and radio broadcasts things like "pedestrian hit with 30mph has 90% of dying, pedestrian hit with 20mph has 90% chance to live" So why not something like this? https://youtu.be/o3M6aSyPHhw Or this: https://youtu.be/G_KuYj7yVEY __________________ `03 V70 Mk2 Auto 2.4 B5244 NA, 170Bhp, 295K miles (Now parts donor) '05 XC70 MK2 Geartronic, 2.5 B5254T2, 210bhp, 129k miles Last edited by ThomasG; Oct 17th, 2019 at 11:13.

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ThomasG Aka MadBabs Last Online: Nov 11th, 2022 15:29 Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: London	Great.. Not really a new idea.. Germany, Austria, INDIA(!).. half of the world is using this. Not a mention of it locally, though. I won't share my opinion... __________________ `03 V70 Mk2 Auto 2.4 B5244 NA, 170Bhp, 295K miles (Now parts donor) '05 XC70 MK2 Geartronic, 2.5 B5254T2, 210bhp, 129k miles

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