Are wheel nuts the same for steel wheels and alloy wheels?

R67ADB · Dec 5th, 2019, 21:03

Hi I have a 2002 Volvo s60 D5 running 16" Mimus alloys and I've just bought some second hand genuine Volvo 16" steel wheels off eBay. They are the same width and ET as the Mimus alloys. The only concern I have is will the wheel nuts for the alloys be the same as the steel wheels?

My thinking is they will be alright as the spare wheel is a steelie space saver I just need some reassurance from someone in the know.

Whyman · Dec 5th, 2019, 21:26

According to my manual you use the same bolts for the steel space saver as you say so you should be fine. To be sure I would fit one on the front and rear axle and make sure the wheel rotates freely.

My previous car was a Merc E320 CDi and the tool kit included a set of bolts for the steel space saver. They were shorter than the bolts for the alloys.

I suspect that on the Merc the alloy bolts were too long if fitted with the space saver and may have protruded too far into the hub and damaged the brake mechanism.

barrybritcher · Dec 5th, 2019, 21:50

No this is dangerous.

Alloy are tapered

barrybritcher · Dec 5th, 2019, 21:57

i stand corrected it must have been one of my other cars, the volvo is the same bolts apprently

R67ADB · Dec 5th, 2019, 22:19

Thanks hopefully saves me having to by wheel bolts if the seats are the same. I will check how much thread sticks out of the alloy with the bolt inserted and then measure how much it sticks out on the steelie and hopefully I wont need longer or shorter bolts.

ksmi · Dec 6th, 2019, 08:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by R67ADB

Thanks hopefully saves me having to by wheel bolts if the seats are the same. I will check how much thread sticks out of the alloy with the bolt inserted and then measure how much it sticks out on the steelie and hopefully I wont need longer or shorter bolts.

Morning R,You may have to run a tap through to clear any rust /gunge that may be in the threads as the steels rims are thinner than the alloys.

Regards,Keith.

Missing Lincs · Dec 6th, 2019, 09:10

Back in the day (early 2,000s) Volvo didn't make chrome plated wheel bolts for alloys, you just used the same steel bolts that were used with steel wheels. I can't remember when chrome bolts came in, I do remember buying a set

myfirstv70 · Dec 6th, 2019, 12:15

I too have Mimas alloys and use the very same bolts to secure my winter steel wheels. There is a taper on the steel wheels that accommodates the bolts, I have done this for 4 or 5 winters now with no ill effects. The bolts will protrude through the hub further than it would with an alloy but the bolt thread does this anyway I believe.
HTH?
Nobby

R67ADB · Dec 6th, 2019, 12:22

The wheel bolts fitted no problem and the length was not an issue as the thread stuck out the same amount as the alloy.

Dec 5th, 2019, 21:03	#1
R67ADB New Member Last Online: Feb 14th, 2020 01:45 Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Anglesey	Are wheel nuts the same for steel wheels and alloy wheels? Hi I have a 2002 Volvo s60 D5 running 16" Mimus alloys and I've just bought some second hand genuine Volvo 16" steel wheels off eBay. They are the same width and ET as the Mimus alloys. The only concern I have is will the wheel nuts for the alloys be the same as the steel wheels? My thinking is they will be alright as the spare wheel is a steelie space saver I just need some reassurance from someone in the know.

Dec 5th, 2019, 21:26	#2
Whyman Premier Member Last Online: Yesterday 09:21 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Newark	According to my manual you use the same bolts for the steel space saver as you say so you should be fine. To be sure I would fit one on the front and rear axle and make sure the wheel rotates freely. My previous car was a Merc E320 CDi and the tool kit included a set of bolts for the steel space saver. They were shorter than the bolts for the alloys. I suspect that on the Merc the alloy bolts were too long if fitted with the space saver and may have protruded too far into the hub and damaged the brake mechanism. __________________ XC60 2013 D5 215 SE Lux Nav geartronic

Dec 5th, 2019, 21:50	#3
barrybritcher Flaccid Member Last Online: Apr 15th, 2024 16:09 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Norwich	No this is dangerous. Alloy are tapered __________________ 2001 Volvo S60 T5 SE 2.3 Geartronic (Scrapped) 2007 Volvo S60 T5 SE 2.4 Geartronic (Sold) 2008 Volvo V70 D5 SE Sport Geartronic (Current)

Dec 5th, 2019, 21:57	#4
barrybritcher Flaccid Member Last Online: Apr 15th, 2024 16:09 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: Norwich	i stand corrected it must have been one of my other cars, the volvo is the same bolts apprently __________________ 2001 Volvo S60 T5 SE 2.3 Geartronic (Scrapped) 2007 Volvo S60 T5 SE 2.4 Geartronic (Sold) 2008 Volvo V70 D5 SE Sport Geartronic (Current)

Dec 6th, 2019, 12:15	#8
myfirstv70 Senior Member Last Online: Yesterday 17:24 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Lincoln	I beg to differ..... I too have Mimas alloys and use the very same bolts to secure my winter steel wheels. There is a taper on the steel wheels that accommodates the bolts, I have done this for 4 or 5 winters now with no ill effects. The bolts will protrude through the hub further than it would with an alloy but the bolt thread does this anyway I believe. HTH? Nobby

Dec 5th, 2019, 22:19	#5
R67ADB New Member Last Online: Feb 14th, 2020 01:45 Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Anglesey	Thanks hopefully saves me having to by wheel bolts if the seats are the same. I will check how much thread sticks out of the alloy with the bolt inserted and then measure how much it sticks out on the steelie and hopefully I wont need longer or shorter bolts.

Dec 6th, 2019, 09:10	#7
Missing Lincs Premier Member Last Online: Yesterday 08:55 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Louth	Back in the day (early 2,000s) Volvo didn't make chrome plated wheel bolts for alloys, you just used the same steel bolts that were used with steel wheels. I can't remember when chrome bolts came in, I do remember buying a set

Dec 6th, 2019, 12:22	#9
R67ADB New Member Last Online: Feb 14th, 2020 01:45 Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Anglesey	The wheel bolts fitted no problem and the length was not an issue as the thread stuck out the same amount as the alloy.

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