|
700/900 Series General Forum for the Volvo 740, 760, 780, 940, 960 & S/V90 cars |
Information |
|
Missfire 960Views : 955 Replies : 24Users Viewing This Thread : |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
Jun 12th, 2019, 15:05 | #1 |
VOC Member
Last Online: Today 12:20
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hounslow West London
|
Missfire 960
Hi all. My 1993 960 380k miles has started to misfire. The engine will fire up and clearly very lumpy. I have checked the ignition side; both the two ignition amplifiers on the sides of the inlet unit are OK, checked by swapping them over; all 6 coil units are fine and produce lots of spark when removed; the wires going to the coils running along the top of the head, whilst not perfect but do not short anywhere; all 6 plugs are nearly new and checked by substitution and are OK. I can't see or detect any inlet or vacuum hose leaks...the latter hoses are recently new. Just done a cylinder pressure test and I get 150 psi on no. 1,3,4,6 cylinders, 0 psi on no.2 and about 30psi and no.5.
Unless any of you can suggest anything else to check, I think I have to take the head off and see whats up....I suspect either valves or something with the hydraulic tappets. I use only fully synthetic oil (for at least 10 years) Any views please? Thanks. |
Jun 12th, 2019, 15:21 | #2 | |
Experienced Member
Last Online: Today 01:00
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: L/H side
|
Quote:
__________________
My comments are only based on my opinions and vast experience . |
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Clan For This Useful Post: |
Jun 12th, 2019, 15:58 | #3 |
VOC Member
Last Online: Today 12:20
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hounslow West London
|
Thanks for that Clan, the car is in regular use every day and have just driven back from Malta on what I thought was 5 cylinders but after the compression test, may be only 4!
With the poor or zero cylinder pressures I suspect the head has to come off. Fortunately I have a spare reconditioned head! But I appreciate your comments. |
The Following User Says Thank You to mjk164 For This Useful Post: |
Jun 12th, 2019, 21:05 | #4 |
Premier Member
Last Online: Today 12:37
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Lakenheath
|
I suspect you're right about the hydraulic tappets Garth but before decapitating the engine, try adding 0.5L of Carlube ATF-U to the engine oil and drive as normal, at least until the next oil/filter change. At that point, substitute 1L of ATF-U for engine oil then top up with your normal engine oil.
You should start to notice some sort of difference after a few hundred miles though, improved economy, smoother running, lack of clatter on start up etc. You may still have a failed hydraulic tappet or a burned valve but IMHO worth trying the simple fix first.
__________________
Cheers Dave Next Door to Top-Gun with a Honda CR-V & S Type Jag Volvo gone but not forgotten........ |
The Following User Says Thank You to Laird Scooby For This Useful Post: |
Jun 13th, 2019, 18:31 | #5 |
Premier Member
Last Online: Yesterday 18:31
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Yorkshire man living in County Durham
|
Fuel injectors may be loose or seals gone on the effected cylinders, check these first as you will lose compression if they are.
__________________
XC90 Inscription D5 Power pulse, 2017 MY, Savile grey, Blond Nappa, Leather dash/door tops, Walnut inlays, Dark tinted windows, Air suspension, Bliss/Cross traffic alert, Xenium/7 seat comfort/Family/Winter packs, 4 zone climate, Heated rear seats. |
The Following User Says Thank You to nu11eaf For This Useful Post: |
Jun 13th, 2019, 19:01 | #6 | |
Premier Member
Last Online: Today 12:37
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Lakenheath
|
Quote:
On a diesel defective injector seals will cause loss of compression but on a petrol (except GDi) a defective injector seal will either cause a nice big fuel leak from the fuel rail or allow air into the inlet manifold, causing lean running on the cylinder it serves.
__________________
Cheers Dave Next Door to Top-Gun with a Honda CR-V & S Type Jag Volvo gone but not forgotten........ |
|
Jun 13th, 2019, 23:01 | #7 |
VOC Member
Last Online: Today 12:20
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hounslow West London
|
Yes Dave, you are correct, the 6304 is not direct injection but injects into the inlet track and then into the cylinder via the valves.
On my engine I suspect the No.2 and No.5 exhaust valves to be the problem as there is no indication of any feedback into the inlet track or into the radiator. Thanks. |
The Following User Says Thank You to mjk164 For This Useful Post: |
Jun 13th, 2019, 23:38 | #8 | |
Premier Member
Last Online: Today 12:37
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Lakenheath
|
Quote:
__________________
Cheers Dave Next Door to Top-Gun with a Honda CR-V & S Type Jag Volvo gone but not forgotten........ |
|
Jun 16th, 2019, 19:26 | #9 |
VOC Member
Last Online: Today 12:20
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hounslow West London
|
Hi Dave, thanks for your guidance and I have regularly read your advice on the use of ATF; I don't have Carlube but regular Comma ATF although its not fully synthetic. I'll see how it goes and run it for a week or so. There is nothing to loose and should it save the head strip down, that's a bonus. When I first got the car in about 2001 and 170k on the clock it used to regularly have trouble with the hydraulic valve sticking in the cold and that's why I changed to fully synth lube oil which cured the problem. I'm not convinced though that the various brands of fully synth lube available all work as well in this respect.
Thanks Garth. |
The Following User Says Thank You to mjk164 For This Useful Post: |
Jun 16th, 2019, 21:39 | #10 | |
Premier Member
Last Online: Today 12:37
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Lakenheath
|
Quote:
It's possible that because you're using synthetic oil in the engine that the mineral ATF will work a bit quicker. However i've not tried that so i can't be sure. Good luck with it and hopefully it saves you a stripdown job.
__________________
Cheers Dave Next Door to Top-Gun with a Honda CR-V & S Type Jag Volvo gone but not forgotten........ |
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|