2002 S80 starting problem

johnwilky · Jul 28th, 2020, 14:43

Our brilliant 2002 S80 PL02GWD has developed a starting problem ,we have had AA go thro a thourogh check battery,fuses,plugs ( changed recently) ,fuel , spark etc all good ,his diagnostic laptop tells him it could be a timing issue.

Had timing belt changed 100,00 ( 118,000 presently ) normally runs beautifully.

Any ideas in garage atm but mech scratching his head a bit,don't wanna spend too much on it , several other non related problems ( elec window,headlight prob,boot lock issue,) just wanna keep it going till next MOT ,insurance,tax,

Any help suggestions much appreciated.

Georgeandkira · Jul 28th, 2020, 18:02

Correct plugs? I used the wrong ones in my 2002 and the car ran OK for a brief while then wouldn't start.

When was the fuel filter last changed (my favorite thing to ask)? You said fuel checked out OK.

Did your mechanic have a VIDA? A bad CKS (CranKshaft Positioning Sensor) can result in a "no start" scenario. Been there twice with different vehicles but got a code both times.

Could a screwy ETM cause a "no start"? I'm thinking it might.

johnwilky · Jul 28th, 2020, 19:00

Not sure what equipment AA patroller had just a plug-in device he used and cleared all faults, plugs changed a while ago, looking back it could be an intermittent problem , because very occasionally it would cut out soon after starting less than 2 mile 5 mins then start immediately then no problem for quite a while.

AA lad was very good , very thorough .

What’s an ETM ?

Thanks for the suggestions and the prompt reply

johnwilky · Jul 28th, 2020, 19:01

Not sure whe; fuel filter has been changed if ever !

cheshired5 · Jul 28th, 2020, 20:58

Which engine type/code are we talking about?

johnwilky · Jul 29th, 2020, 08:46

Sorry the guy didn't tell me the code ,just that it could be cam related

johnwilky · Jul 29th, 2020, 18:42

Mate of mine has suggested can position actuator ,? Not a clue regarding removal and fitting or cost ?

cheshired5 · Jul 29th, 2020, 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheshired5

Which engine type/code are we talking about?

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnwilky

Sorry the guy didn't tell me the code

I mean petrol/diesel?
D5244T B6294T etc.....

johnwilky · Jul 29th, 2020, 20:38

Sorry C , it’s petrol ,

But I don’t know the code number ,,,, it tries it’s best to start , patroller checked all connections to plugs and volts / earths , fuses , fuel was present at the head.Sparks all ok .

Apologies for repeating the symptoms.

VOLVOBOY · Jul 29th, 2020, 21:41

Hi.
There is a Cam Reset Valve or more commonly known on Volvos as the VVT Valve. (Variable Valve Timing).
These are known to get stuck due to a build up of crud. Normally , the car will start but be down on power.
Don`t know which engine you have but if it`s the 6 cylinder then there are 2 Valves ,one on inlet cam and one on exhaust.
If one or both Valves are stuck then the engine timing will be "out".

Jul 28th, 2020, 14:43	#1
johnwilky Junior Member Last Online: Sep 28th, 2022 18:26 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: stalybridge	2002 S80 starting problem Our brilliant 2002 S80 PL02GWD has developed a starting problem ,we have had AA go thro a thourogh check battery,fuses,plugs ( changed recently) ,fuel , spark etc all good ,his diagnostic laptop tells him it could be a timing issue. Had timing belt changed 100,00 ( 118,000 presently ) normally runs beautifully. Any ideas in garage atm but mech scratching his head a bit,don't wanna spend too much on it , several other non related problems ( elec window,headlight prob,boot lock issue,) just wanna keep it going till next MOT ,insurance,tax, Any help suggestions much appreciated.

Jul 28th, 2020, 20:58	#5
cheshired5 Premier Member Last Online: Dec 26th, 2021 13:42 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Crewe	Which engine type/code are we talking about? __________________ 2002 S60 SE D5 Manual 209000 miles

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Jul 28th, 2020, 18:02	#2
Georgeandkira Premier Member Last Online: Apr 17th, 2024 16:59 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hackensack	Correct plugs? I used the wrong ones in my 2002 and the car ran OK for a brief while then wouldn't start. When was the fuel filter last changed (my favorite thing to ask)? You said fuel checked out OK. Did your mechanic have a VIDA? A bad CKS (CranKshaft Positioning Sensor) can result in a "no start" scenario. Been there twice with different vehicles but got a code both times. Could a screwy ETM cause a "no start"? I'm thinking it might.

Jul 28th, 2020, 19:00	#3
johnwilky Junior Member Last Online: Sep 28th, 2022 18:26 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: stalybridge	Not sure what equipment AA patroller had just a plug-in device he used and cleared all faults, plugs changed a while ago, looking back it could be an intermittent problem , because very occasionally it would cut out soon after starting less than 2 mile 5 mins then start immediately then no problem for quite a while. AA lad was very good , very thorough . What’s an ETM ? Thanks for the suggestions and the prompt reply

Jul 28th, 2020, 19:01	#4
johnwilky Junior Member Last Online: Sep 28th, 2022 18:26 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: stalybridge	Not sure whe; fuel filter has been changed if ever !

Jul 29th, 2020, 08:46	#6
johnwilky Junior Member Last Online: Sep 28th, 2022 18:26 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: stalybridge	Sorry the guy didn't tell me the code ,just that it could be cam related

Jul 29th, 2020, 18:42	#7
johnwilky Junior Member Last Online: Sep 28th, 2022 18:26 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: stalybridge	Mate of mine has suggested can position actuator ,? Not a clue regarding removal and fitting or cost ?

Jul 29th, 2020, 20:38	#9
johnwilky Junior Member Last Online: Sep 28th, 2022 18:26 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: stalybridge	Sorry C , it’s petrol , But I don’t know the code number ,,,, it tries it’s best to start , patroller checked all connections to plugs and volts / earths , fuses , fuel was present at the head.Sparks all ok . Apologies for repeating the symptoms.

Jul 29th, 2020, 21:41	#10
VOLVOBOY Lazy Member Last Online: Yesterday 21:50 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: HORLEY	Hi. There is a Cam Reset Valve or more commonly known on Volvos as the VVT Valve. (Variable Valve Timing). These are known to get stuck due to a build up of crud. Normally , the car will start but be down on power. Don`t know which engine you have but if it`s the 6 cylinder then there are 2 Valves ,one on inlet cam and one on exhaust. If one or both Valves are stuck then the engine timing will be "out".

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