Volvo Community Forum. The Forums of the Volvo Owners Club

Forum Rules Volvo Owners Club About VOC Volvo Gallery Links Volvo History Volvo Press
Go Back   Volvo Owners Club Forum > "Technical Topics" > S80 '06-'16 / V70 & XC70 '07-'16 General
Register Members Cars Help Calendar Extra Stuff

Notices

S80 '06-'16 / V70 & XC70 '07-'16 General Forum for the P3-platform S80 and 70-series models

Information
  • VOC Members: There is no login facility using your VOC membership number or the details from page 3 of the club magazine. You need to register in the normal way
  • AOL Customers: Make sure you check the 'Remember me' check box otherwise the AOL system may log you out during the session. This is a known issue with AOL.
  • AOL, Yahoo and Plus.net users. Forum owners such as us are finding that AOL, Yahoo and Plus.net are blocking a lot of email generated from forums. This may mean your registration activation and other emails will not get to you, or they may appear in your spam mailbox

Thread Informations

V70 185 D5 - loss of boost and power (P023800 P02346 fault)

Views : 1021

Replies : 15

Users Viewing This Thread :  

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Nov 14th, 2023, 10:49   #1
Stu B
Master Member
 

Last Online: Today 22:44
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Cheshire
Default V70 185 D5 - loss of boost and power (P023800 P02346 fault)

Morning All,

A surprise start to my commute this morning… no turbo boost! No EML but symptoms very similar to a previous issue in 2020 I had which I cured by replacing the MAP sensor in the lower corner of the engine bay behind the passenger headlight.

However, I found my previous thread (link below) and on scanning the car this time the faults are different.

https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=309428


The codes today are:

ECM-P023800 - turbo/super charger boost sensor A circuit high
ECM-P023468 - turbo/super charger overboost condition - algorithm based failures


The car is a 2009 185 D5 (with polestar) auto. Any advice where I should start troubleshooting please? I’m presumably looking for a boost leak, intercooler fault, faulty sensor again?

I have VIDA so if it’s possible to narrow it down with some tests that would be helpful before I start dismantling….

Thanks,
Stu
__________________
2017 V60 CC D4 AWD Polestar

Last edited by Stu B; Nov 14th, 2023 at 10:51.
Stu B is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 14th, 2023, 10:54   #2
Stu B
Master Member
 

Last Online: Today 22:44
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Cheshire
Default

Vida screenshot

https://imgur.com/a/kmjkFoZ
__________________
2017 V60 CC D4 AWD Polestar

Last edited by Stu B; Nov 14th, 2023 at 10:56.
Stu B is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 14th, 2023, 14:47   #3
Stu B
Master Member
 

Last Online: Today 22:44
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Cheshire
Default

Just to update, I do have an EML on now…
__________________
2017 V60 CC D4 AWD Polestar
Stu B is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 14th, 2023, 15:01   #4
Simmy
Premier Member
 
Simmy's Avatar
 

Last Online: Today 22:35
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Manchester
Default

have you tried clearing and re running just in case its a small glitch ? go to vehicle communications and look at the ecm to see if there is any indications of what has changed in any of the settings
Simmy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 14th, 2023, 15:59   #5
Stu B
Master Member
 

Last Online: Today 22:44
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Cheshire
Default

Hi Simmy, yes I tried clearing the faults but the two in my post above immediately reappear. I also tried a short drive around the block after clearing and the lack of boost persists and now the EML is on.

I’ve had a poke about in VIDA and it refers to the ‘charge pressure sensor’, I’m not sure if that’s the same as the MAP (TMAP) sensor I replaced three years ago in the bottom of the intercooler, or a different one? Anyone know? The VIDA parts location diagram doesn’t list it.

I’ve added a few more VIDA screenshots here of where it takes me… item 14 on the component diagram looks to be it ‘boost pressure sensor’ but I can’t spot it on the engine?

Is it buried in the inlet manifold perhaps? I know on my previous post linked in the original post above, Clan indicated there are three sensors, one in the ECM, one in the manifold and one in the intercooler - is this the middle one?

https://imgur.com/a/kmjkFoZ

My car is a 58 reg (but 2009 year) 185 D5 single turbo euro 4.

Thanks
Stu
__________________
2017 V60 CC D4 AWD Polestar

Last edited by Stu B; Nov 14th, 2023 at 16:10.
Stu B is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 14th, 2023, 16:09   #6
Simmy
Premier Member
 
Simmy's Avatar
 

Last Online: Today 22:35
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Manchester
Default

have a look around the throttle body or the pipe work leading to it or try a quick youtube search
Simmy is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Simmy For This Useful Post:
Old Nov 14th, 2023, 16:18   #7
Simmy
Premier Member
 
Simmy's Avatar
 

Last Online: Today 22:35
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Manchester
Default

it might be on the intake manifold have a quick look at the drive life vid on boost sensor
Simmy is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Simmy For This Useful Post:
Old Nov 14th, 2023, 16:26   #8
Stu B
Master Member
 

Last Online: Today 22:44
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Cheshire
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmy View Post
it might be on the intake manifold have a quick look at the drive life vid on boost sensor
I watched the video, I definitely don’t have a sensor there on this engine but the component he removes to clean is the one I have low down in the intercooler that I replaced in 2020 so that must be it. I will remove it (in daylight), inspect, clean, replace as needed and check for boost leaks and intercooler damage whilst I’m at it.

Thanks
Stu
__________________
2017 V60 CC D4 AWD Polestar
Stu B is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Nov 14th, 2023, 19:13   #9
Thassos
GoldMember
 
Thassos's Avatar
 

Last Online: Apr 25th, 2024 22:46
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Kent, UK
Smile at a guess

i would think its the combined temp and pressure sensor on the intercooler outlet side near the airfilter side, has just one torx20 screw thats a bit of a fiddle to unscrew.. seem to be a lot of 'compatible' parts avail £20 ish that are from the ford focus st camp..
Thassos is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Thassos For This Useful Post:
Old Nov 14th, 2023, 22:37   #10
Kev0607
Premier Member
 

Last Online: Today 19:20
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Manchester
Default

I think it’s the one on the intercooler, Stu. Worth checking that and giving it a clean, or replace. Check all hoses for for splits. Might also be worth giving the MAF sensor a clean whilst you’re at it (the one near the air box).

The video above, although a similar car, is a euro 5 model and the layout could be different.

P023468 - This code can relate to the turbo vanes and/or turbo actuator. If I recall correctly, on the older models (euro 3’s), the turbo actuator was vacuum controlled. Euro 4’s and newer are electronic, I believe. It’s a possibility that the motor for the actuator could be bad.
__________________
2007 S80 2.4 D5 - 110,000 miles

Last edited by Kev0607; Nov 14th, 2023 at 22:49.
Kev0607 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 23:09.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.